Transcript

Age of Truth TV Copenhagen, Denmark

Monday, April 15, 2019

Lucas starts the interview by asking Simon to give a short summary of his family history, his contactee experience and his political carer. Simon's mother was an MI5/NSA secret agent and his grandfather was an MI6/CIA agent and a 33rd degree Freemason. Discussion of Simon’s relationships with Mantid aliens: maternal, romantic, parenting; meeting and communication with different alien races; the Reptilian hierarchy; Draconis Reptilians are service to self and in control of all Earth governments whose leaders are chosen and mind controlled; as for wars, only the human Illuminati through greed and desire for power start wars; purpose of 5G; purpose of elite Satanic rituals and CERN connection; note that a Reptilian can’t be summoned but must be invited as in the Rothschild chair round table meeting; only three people make up the real elite; messages from Mantids or Reptilians are about thwarting or stopping what might happen; purpose of sacrificing humans, especially children; moving through dimensions; rules governing time in 3rd dimension are different from all the other dimensions; Saturn rings are made of crystal and serve as an aerial projecting the grid around Earth; reincarnation, the Archonic soul-harvesting trap; black holes, portals, escaping the grid; out-of-body experiences through DNA links to other dimensions; AI has consciousness but no soul, so AI is our biggest enemy, especially with introduction of 5G; EISCAT location and 5G testing is being carried out in the most spiritual place on planet; forget protecting oneself from 5G, just STOP it; Julian Assange arrest looks stage-managed whereas Edward Snowden had no protection, essentially a fall guy; theories on Flat Earth and existence of Hollow Earth; Simon discusses goals for his group, Connecting Consciousness, open to all.

Lucas Alexander: Hello and welcome to this edition of Age of Truth TV. I’m Lucas Alexander in Copenhagen, Denmark. It’s the 15th of April, 2019 and our guest today is a British politician who turned whistleblower, consciousness teacher, mind-control deprogrammer, and alien contactee. He claims to be a lifelong experiencer of extraterrestrials, shadow people, and UFOs, Simon Parkes.

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Lucas Alexander: Good evening to you Simon Parkes joining us from your home in Whitby, England. Welcome to the show and thank you very much for being with us.

Simon Parkes: That’s very kind of you, very happy to be here.

LA: Thank you. Please talk about your long history as an alien contactee and experiencer of extraterrestrial entities and please also go into your family history. I know that your family was involved in several of the British intelligence services and the Freemasons, but first of all my first question to you is why do you think that you are a chosen one?

SP: Well first of all Lucas it’s very lovely to be invited to speak to you and speak to the audience. Thank you very much. I’m very pleased to have the opportunity to talk to you.

LA: Thank you.

SP: To answer your question, I’ve never actually looked on myself as a chosen one. Some people over the last few years have come to me and said that they would like to experience what I have experienced, and I’ve said to them you really wouldn’t, because it’s not what the glossy magazines say. It’s not what people write on the internet. When you’ve had real experience there are ups and downs, and perhaps not everybody can cope with what they see. So to answer your question directly I suppose partly I don’t know, but what I’ve gathered over the last few years, it’s literally about would you accept that the physical body that we have is inhabited by a living soul, and the soul never dies, and it reincarnates time and time again on this planet. Then if it’s anything at all, it’s about the previous physical bodies that the soul that’s presently in this form has inhabited over the past, and we know that off planet entities or aliens follow generation of families time and time again, so I guess that, you know, this is nothing new. My mother, my grandmother, great-grandmother, I think everybody in this family line of mine had a visit.

LA: And your mother was part of MI5 in England, and your grandfather a part of MI6 and he was a Freemason right?

SP: Grandfather was a Freemason and reached the level 33 and then he decided to leave. Two things occurred. One, a journalist started to ask questions of him. My grandfather was a British diplomat. He was a British consul and he was based in India, but obviously the British Embassy in India. So first of all the journalist was asking questions, and secondly my grandfather said that the higher up you got in Freemasonry, the more and more people were below you. Think of a . . . Lukas think of a pyramid, and as you climb the top of the pyramid the base gets bigger, and he said that more and more people wanted him to do something for them and there was very few people left who could do anything for him, so he bought himself out of the Freemasons, which you can do. My mother worked for MI5, but really she was working for the National Security Agency of the United States of America. My grandfather worked for British MI6, but he was really working for the CIA. So both my mother and her father, which is my grandfather, were working for the intelligence agencies.

LA: It must be the very first time we’ve ever heard, at least publicly, about somebody who has reached the level of 33 as a Freemason who actually, well said no to a future in this whole group, this whole order.

SP: Well grandfather for his work was given the British, these are British medals. Some of your audience may be familiar with them. He was given the OBE, which is the Order of the British Empire. Then he was awarded the CBE which is a Command of the British Empire, and then they offered him to make him a lord to bestir and go through and he turned that down, a knighthood. They were offering him Knight of the Garter and he told me on my 21st birthday, because he was very old fashioned, he said when I was 18 I wasn’t a man, but when I was 21 I was, because when he was a lad you could only vote when you were 21, and he said to me that he turned down the knighthood simply because they would control him. He said if I accept the knighthood, they will forever control me. So he refused it. So he had principles and that’s why he decided that the Freemasonry ladder had reached a point where he felt that he had to say goodbye.

LA: But did he experience something that actually shocked him or made him aware that something, well let’s say a little bit sinister, was going on when he was reaching that level? I mean some would suggest that that is actually an Illuminati level.

SP: It’s not. The 33rd level is the last of the public levels. It’s the last level that is open and obvious. What people do not understand I’m afraid is that you could be a level 15 or a level 17 but you could be a member of the Illuminati. In other words, you are carrying a number or a figure which is in plain sight, but in reality you are a member of the secret organization at the top level. So for instance the Great White Brotherhood, or any of the other magic groups that exist technically above level 33, but you don’t have to be above level 33 to be in this secret group. You could be a new initiate. You could come in and be a freemason for six months but they fast-track you, so the number is . . . it’s confusing. You can’t go by the number.

LA: That is a very interesting thing and I’m sure a lot of people don’t know about that, so thank you very much for telling us that. Actually, you were a politician. You were working for the labor as a Labour Councillor in Whitby, and why did you actually decide to go into politics, because do you actually believe in the political system, or were you made aware of what is actually going on within the political structure afterwards?

SP: Well I joined the Labour Party in 1979 when I was aware of children walking around the city with no shoes on their feet because their parents didn’t have enough money to buy shoes, and I thought this was a disgrace and I wanted to do something so I joined a political party. In actual fact I’ve been a Labour Councillor, excuse me, a Labour Councillor in London. I served two terms of office as a Labour Councillor in a municipal city and we call it frontbench, so I rose to a position of frontbench where I was in charge of a number of committees, and then at the time the family left and we moved out to Whitby, and then I thought well I’ve done everything now I’m not going to do it again, but the Labour Party kept pushing me, asked me to get involved, so by this time I’d gone public. I’d talked about my family being in intelligence. I’d talked about the aliens and then I stood for election, and what was very important to me Lucas was that I’d gone public and told everyone about my alien experiences, and then I asked them to vote for me and they did. And that was the biggest wake-up call to the establishment that they couldn’t say oh you’ve lied to people. I’m in public a good year before I stood and people said to me we’re not interested in your alien experiences. We like you because you get the street lights working. You get the holes in the roads fixed and we get our trash taken away on time, and that was very interesting for me. So it wasn’t an issue for the campaign on the election.

LA: That is very interesting. Why do you think you were allowed actually to have this position and even go out publicly and talk about it? Why do you think that was? That’s very unusual.

SP: It is and it’s a very important question, and to answer that I might need to take a minute or two to explain it. My mother worked at home. She was a typist. She had very good spelling and her job was to type up documents that had come from Germany, from scientists, and these documents related to crashed UFO craft that had been brought down or just literally crashed on the Earth, and a group of scientists were tasked with taking out the material and then the military–this is the United States military–would say to the scientists what process, what can you do with this, and the scientists would then say well we can do this and this. Now my mother, her job was to type out these documents. They arrived in German, and I’ll go into that in more detail later, but they arrived in German and she would type them out, and the British agent who was working with my mother, would come in on always a weekend and this was between I think about 1965 or 1966 right up to 1979, and in the early days I was obviously at school, but every weekend they would come. The security guy would come in. I was never asked to leave the room. These discussions would take place between my mother and this man, and the document would change hands and the agent would talk to me. At the time it seemed normal. Now I’m looking back and I understand this was a deliberate, I was deliberately being involved in this, and there’s more to the story, but what happened in 2012–2013 was I was invited to one of the most top-secret military bases in Great Britain which is called Fylingdales Space Radar, and we’re given a tour. And what I understand is that there is one faction of the military which is good, which is trying to support me, and there’s one faction which is bad, which doesn’t want me being open and honest, so I get help and I get hindrances. So to answer your question there are some people behind me trying to get me on my way, and there are others that are trying to stop me. So it depends which one of those groups is in charge at the time.

LA: Would you say that these people who were working with your mother in secret we’re trying to groom you to become also a secret agent?

SP: No. I think it was very well known in security circles that I was having alien experiences. My mother told me that there were two lists on the Earth. There was a list that the military had of every real alien experiencer or abductee. So the military had lists of all genuine experiences. Then they had a second list where the aliens had said that these people belong to us. In other words, saying to the military you have no jurisdiction over these people, you can’t intervene, and I understand, excuse me, that I’m in the second list. So sure, if I park badly I’m going to get a ticket, now that, I’m subject to the laws just like everybody else, but when it comes to these very interesting decisions or off-planet experiences, I’m absolutely convinced that the security services of Great Britain were fully aware of the alien experiences I’m getting, and therefore they . . . their job was to watch and monitor, but their job was not to become involved.

LA: But just to get back to your story about you being invited to this secret military base, why do you think they invited you to visit this base where other people have no access?

SP: Because when I went public the British media had been told to try and make me look a fool and to try to rubbish the story, to say that I was crazy, and I did a lot of interviews. I didn’t run away from it. I did as many interviews as came my way, and in most cases the guys doing the interview didn’t get what they wanted, and I think what happens is that the one arm of the military invited me to the radar base to show the world that actually I was genuine, because if I was making it all up, if it was all just crazy, why would you invite a crazy man for a three-hour tour around a top-secret radar base? And it worked, because after that I had people at the BBC phoning me at home saying I don’t understand this. I’ve been told to give you a hard time. I’ve been told to make you out to be crazy, but the British military have just invited you around and I don’t understand, and suddenly all of the interviews just dried up, and I since then I’ve had about only three official BBC interviews since that day.

LA: Incredible huh. So do you think that there was a purpose with them inviting you and actually making it public? What do you think they wanted to gain from going public with you being invited to that place, and of course in association with your very incredible and unusual story?

SP: Well that’s it isn’t it? I mean I said my grandfather worked for CIA. My mother worked for the National Security Agency. I see aliens and flying saucers and Reptilians and Mantis beings, et cetera, et cetera, and knowing all that they still invited me to the radar base. So it was clearly a message to the media to get off my back, and I went to the radar base and I arrived and I went with another member of my family who’d also been invited, and we were stopped at the gate. Your audience may not realize that British police men and women don’t normally carry guns. We don’t carry guns in this country, but obviously the guards around this base all have machine guns. They’re not threatening. They don’t point the gun at you. They keep the gun against their chest, so I don’t want people to think they were threatening. They’re very, they’re very well trained, and this guy came up to the car and he said good morning or good evening. Please show me some identification. So the member of my family passed their passport across and the guard looked at the passport, looked back at the member of my family, looked at the passport, looked back and then said that’s fine. I went to give this guard my ID and he just held his hand up and said oh no sir that won’t be necessary.

LA: Really?

SP: And then we drove in and I said to the member of the family, oh I could be anybody, you know. He’s just let me in and he doesn’t know who I am, and the member said oh come along they’ve already been given your photograph. They’re already expecting you. It’s obvious. So we went in and we got the slideshow, a presentation, a PowerPoint presentation, but I understand that they put a special slide in for me. You get the presentation of the base, what you can do, what you can’t do, the rules and regulations, and then especially for me they put four pictures up, and one was a rocket being launched and the guy leading it said we watch these. We check these. And then there was a picture of a satellite, and the guy said we watch these. Then there was a picture of the Starship Enterprise, and the guy said laughing, ha ha ha ha, sometimes he said, we even see these ha ha ha. Then there was a picture of a flying saucer and it would be the one that Bob Lazar made popular when he called it the sports model from Area 51.

LA: The same picture?

SP: Exactly the same picture, and then he said very very seriously we don’t see these and he looked at me, and what he was saying is please don’t embarrass us by asking any questions about UFOs. Don’t do that today. That was only for me, and that was very interesting. Then we had the three-hour tour and I was presented with–I was the only one–there were 30 of us, and I was the only one not in the military. Everyone else that were Navy or Air Force or military being given the tour. I was the only one given a medal. Now I can actually hold it up but I don’t know if it’ll show on the picture here. Do you want me to show it to you?

LA: Yes we can try and see if that will work. Did they actually tell you not to question them about UFOs and that they saw these things and were aware of them or was it just something that you felt was not, that you were not welcome to do that?

SP: It was the latter. It was obvious by showing me these four pictures that they did not want any questions about flying saucers. That was obvious. Here it goes. Now I don’t know if it’s going to show up. That’s the one side of it which says it’s the RAF. It probably won’t come out so

LA: Right now it does. If you just hold it still now it’s better.

SP: Okay so that’s . . .

LA: Royal face or what does it say?

SP: Royal Air Force.

LA: Royal Air Force.

SP: This is the . . . that’s the military arm that was responsible for the base and then turn it over. I don’t know how well this will come out. You’ll see a pyramid. This is the actual radar base. It’s what we call a three-phased array. So you have a pyramid with three disks. You can only see two disks, and this is a phased radar. It’s a space radar. It looks out into space, so this is number, this is number five, oh beg your pardon, this is number 86 of a worldwide edition of only 500.

LA: What’s the name of the base by the way?

SP: Fylingdales, Fylingdales. It’s in North Yorkshire.

LA: All right.

SP: It’s the only three-phased array radar in the world. The Americans have a two-phased array, but this is the only three. It looks completely around the Earth. It sees right round the Earth and out into space.

LA: Oh.

SP: Three hours were up and the guy ran into the control room, we’d been in the control room, and he said that we’ve got to go soon, and in the control room you have all the screens and the operators are monitoring screens, but to the right hand side there was about ten meters of glass wall, and behind it two men were sitting, and I asked the guy leading, I said, “Who are they?” and he said, “They’re the Americans,” and what he told me is that when an unidentified flying object is detected on the radar, all of the British crew have to stand up, walk out, the Americans then unlock this glass door, come in and they take control of the facility. And when they’ve dealt with what they need to deal with, they go back into their room, lock the glass up, and the Brits are allowed to come back in again. So although it is a British facility, it is totally run by the Americans.

LA: So why do you think the British is not allowed to take care of, well if anything that they see on their screens?

SP: Because the Americans won the Second World War, and from that moment onwards, the Americans gained most of the German scientists by Operation Paperclip and built up a huge technological advantage, and they forced nearly every country in the world to take orders from them. That’s the reason. So on this medal, I’ll be very brief, I noticed there were these lovely medals, different colors, and I said oh they look nice, and the guy said yeah we’ve been here 50 years, so this year, 2013, he said it’s 50 year anniversary. He said that’s why you’ve been invited. So I said oh, oh can I have one, you know, and he said well no, he said not really. He said we only present them to prime ministers or generals or presidents. It’s a special commemorative, and he said oh the Americans have been very naughty. They’ve made us make them, but they haven’t paid for them. We haven’t paid for it. We have to find a new budget heading. He said we’re in a bit of a pickle really. He said it’s very embarrassing because when we present one, we have to ask for a donation. He said even if a prime minister comes, said the next day we have to phone the prime minister’s office and say please, will you make it a small donation, because we’ve been forced to do this and we don’t have any money.

LA: You wouldn’t think the military was that poor, huh?

SP: Well it’s a heading. What, in a budget heading, it was down, there was no heading for it. The Americans apparently said to the Brits, because Americans love their badges, the Americans love patches and they love badges, and so you’ve got to have one, because it’s an American base secretively. You’ve got to have one, but we’re not going to pay for it; you’ve got to do it. Now just to give you a background of that in Great Britain in the central London area we have what we call a congestion charge, and any motorcar that comes in at a certain time has to pay extra price for coming in and using the central London area. The American government owe millions. They’re the only country that refused to pay this charge. So it’s not surprising that in this case the Americans said we’re not paying, for they have a reputation of not picking up the tab. So anyway I said oh they’re really lovely, and he said well you know they are, but I know I can’t give you one we have to present them, and I said well couldn’t you present one to me, and the two guys behind me burst into laughter, and then suddenly the man said yes I don’t see why not. Which one would you like? So I said well I like the black one, so he said okay and he said the Americans insist that I take your name. He said this is not your property. You’re not allowed to sell it. You can’t give it away. When you die it can be transferred to a member of your family, but it’s never yours. It belongs to the United States government. It’s number 58 of a series of 500, so he asked for a donation, so I gave him a donation. Presenting me with that, he said to me I present it to you. The two men behind me then got out some money because they wanted one, and the guy just shut the box, put it away, and said we have to go. So out of the 30 people, I was the only person to be given that, and that’s not a coincidence, and so I’m glad to able to show it to you and I hope that the audience can see that.

LA: Thank you very much. We appreciate that, and now let’s get into some juicy stuff. So it’s been said that you claim to have an alien mother and even an alien lover and also have alien children. How does that work? Please explain all of this to us.

SP: That’s what the controlled media have said.

LA: Okay please set the record straight and talk to us about how all of this works.

SP: Sure, no problem. When I was very young two alien creatures came to me and I now know of course that their whole object was to gain my confidence, and the best way to gain a young child’s confidence is to pretend to be a member of your family. So one alien said I am your real mother, and that was the point. It stood there and its face changed to my biological mother for a split second and then it went back to its alien face.

LA: So it was a shapeshifter.

SP: No it was not. It was going into my mind and creating a holographic image. They can manipulate a human mind. Human minds I’m afraid aren’t very good generally blocking out these things. So it was going into my mind and giving me a holograph or a screen memory, and it would then show me a picture of my mother, my real mother, and the message I got in my head, because it’s all telepathic. I didn’t, you know, you don’t speak with your mouth to these things, and the message came through which was this is your mother, and then the face changed to the real alien and the message was but this is your real mother. And this went backwards and forwards until I accepted this creature in its original face, in its real face, as my mother. Now as a small boy this is interesting, as a two-year-old or one-and-a-half year old . . .

LA: You remember that far back?

SP: Yes I have a very good memory for that. I couldn’t tell you what I did yesterday in the kitchen, but I have a good memory and I remember that, and also my family have told me as well that I called my real mother daddy, and the reason I called my real mother daddy was because I had a mother, an alien mother. So why would I have two mothers? So my very first words to my mother were daddy, because I already had a mother, and that’s quite interesting, so it must be very confusing for me until I got a bit older, maybe five years old, and then I could understand that you know, there was an alien mother and a human mother, but in the very early stages that was the case. So this being presented itself as my mother. Obviously it was not. You asked other questions, off planet children, yes that’s true, absolutely been shown them, have seen them and picked them up, and have no doubt at all, a very very interesting experience, and I wouldn’t be the first or the last to talk about a sexual relationship with an alien. It’s very hard for people to be honest and truthful, but I’ve gone round the country talking to groups, meeting people, and the number of people who’ve come up to me and said that’s happened to me, but I’m too frightened to talk publicly about it, and I realized that actually it’s much more common than we realize.

LA: In what way? How can you actually have an alien lover? How does that work? Is that like a dimensional shift or an out-of-body experience that you experience in a trance or is it actually physical?

SP: It can be both. You can, you know, have your energy body taken from your physical body and you can interact on that energy level or you can actually interact in the physical body. Some of the work I’ve done with some of my clients who have been affected by Reptilian lovers, they claim to be bodyguards, but in actual fact they say they’re lovers, that is on an energy level, so again it’s very common, and it’s all about what they call the breeding program. It’s all literally about trying to create living creatures that can contain a wide range of souls whether they’re human or Reptilian or Feline, doesn’t matter. They’re trying to find a physical form that can survive on the planet, because at the moment most hybridized beings have a very short lifespan. Now a clone, a clone has a very tiny lifespan, but hybridized creatures can last maybe 10–15 years, so they’re continually looking for genetics that might allow those physical bodies to last longer.

LA: You say that if they, that can be a physical experience and some of the people that are your clients actually have experienced real-life sex with Reptilians.

SP: Yes because apart from the Reptilians that is an energy point, but remember that humans have the capability to connect to 12 strands of DNA, so that means that 12 strands, 12 different groups of aliens that have a strong human connection, and humans and these group of 12 are biologically compatible. Remember that when we had the Roswell crash in 1947 and a 4th dimensional spacecraft physically crashed in New Mexico there were physical metal remains, and physical alien bodies although those creatures existed in the 4th dimension. So we know that these beings can not only come here in an energy form, but they can manifest in the physical form. It’s very easy to come down the ladder: five, four, three. It’s incredibly hard to go up the ladder, so these aliens can come and visit us, but it’s very hard for us to go into their world.

LA: So how did you experience this let’s say sexual experience with, and what type of alien are we talking about?

SP: Well I’m not going to go into that because that becomes, it becomes a sensational interview, and it’s something that’s incredibly, I say private. It’s incredibly private in the sense that real living creatures were being created. You see most abductees or experiencers create children against their will. So you know, they are used, but there are a group that do not get used, and that I think was for me was very very interesting. In fact I actually said to this mother, do these children know who I am? And her reply was well yes of course they do, and what she actually said was, and it’s more important because you willingly created them. In other words, because they were created with your agreement, they are happier souls. Now that’s an incredibly spiritual thing to say. So I was always happy to broach the subject, to push the boundaries, and I was never going to just give it that the flying saucer arrived, and I was put on a trolley, and I was tortured, and then the aliens went away, but that happens a lot. But my story was different, and it wasn’t that my story was better or worse, but I felt that I needed to be truthful and I needed to tell people, but I didn’t want to go into the parts that would, you know, make a sensational story because it would take away from the message.

LA: Well it’s certainly very controversial and eye-opening and a lot of people will have questions about it. Can you tell me whether this, this entity or being was looking like a physical human woman or did it look like an alien being?

SP: Well an earth human would be very very obvious in their perception of what was human or what wasn’t, but when you’ve had a great deal of experience of alien creatures you’re not frightened by them. Remember that for earth humans a blob of jelly with ten tentacles isn’t frightening to them, but what is frightening is something that looks just like them. Earth humans are frightened by creatures that look like them. They can laugh at a robot or something that looks really crazy, but they can’t laugh at something that looks like them, and there are a large number of alien beings that look similar. They’re not exactly the same. They have, you know, two hands and two eyes and a nose and a mouth. They look very similar.

LA: Humanoid.

SP: But there are differences. Yes. There are differences, and we are all compatible because around about two million, from about, I beg your pardon, from about 2.5 million to about 50,000, 60,000, 200,000 years ago different alien groups landed on this Earth and artificially created humanity. So we contain the genetics of a number of alien races. That’s why we’re compatible, and it was only the Reptilians in the last visit that forced humanity into the slave role that we are now. But prior to that it was purely an experiment to see how beautiful these living creatures, i.e., man and woman could become. It was only when the Reptilians arrived they said oh look at this resource. We can control these people so before that it was a much more open and free society. Since then we’ve been closed down quite a lot.

LA: Yes and we want to touch upon that subject as well. But will you say that you have been in the presence physically of alien beings and entities from different dimensions?

SP: Yes and I said it before I was elected. Ah and I said it before I was taken to the military camp and shown around, and I’ve had visits from some very interesting people. One of them was an agent for the Knights Templars, and he came to me and he said you know I just need to tell you that my employers–he referred to them as his employers–believe what you tell them. They have no problem, and he actually said I’ve come here, this was about four years ago, I’d just done a conference and he said I have come here to ask you a question, but I have also an offer for you, and the offer is not dependent on the answer, so you can refuse the answer and we’ve still got the offer. As it was I answered his question, and I’ll tell you what the question was. He said when you’re on a spaceship and you are seeing the future, my employers want to know whether you see the future as individual pictures or whether it’s a video that rolls out? So I answered him the question and he said I’m here to tell you that I can offer you armed bodyguards, armored bullet-resistant vehicles, and he said if the worst comes to the worst, we have an underground bunker for you in Salisbury, which is a place in Great Britain. He said we normally charge a million pounds but in your case it’s free for you and your loved ones, he said, because we have decided that you’re a sacred object and you need to be protected. So that’s the Knights Templars. They had no problem with anything that I’ve said or done, and I find, this is the difficult thing for me Lucas, I find that the elite know who I am, what I am, they either like me or hate me, but the people, the ordinary people who I’m trying to reach, I’m trying to wake up, they’re struggling to believe this. But isn’t it always the case that the powerful and rich know the truth and the ordinary people don’t know the truth, and I thought that was just very interesting.

LA: So that does go back to my very first question. Why do you think you were a chosen one, also to have these experiences with these off-world entities, and you’ve seen them physically and you’ve seen them in your mind? Is that also how it works? They enter your mind and you can download messages from them. Is that how you get your information?

SP: No I’ll answer the two questions. The first question I’ve already answered but I will reanswer it for you. The soul in this physical body has inhabited over many thousands of years other physical bodies and some of those physical bodies have had positions of power and authority, and so that soul that exists in this body has had many experiences and clearly these aliens have been following them. What will happen is that either an alien will appear in the physical to me, and out of every ten, as a ten, ten times, one time will be physical. Nine times will be as an energy format, because if you arrive in the physical form it’s much easier for Earth’s defenses to detect you and react very quickly. If you arrive in an energy form it takes the military longer to find out who they are, where they are, et cetera et cetera. So it’s about a cat-and-mouse game. When they arrive they will stand in front of me generally or come out of a portal. We’re talking about inter-, I beg your pardon, extradimensional entities. These are the entities there, a portal opens and they just appear.

LA: And that could be in your home where you are right now?

SP: All the time. I mean I very rarely had any contact at nighttime. Most of the experiences were during the daytime.

LA: And do you get any warnings before it happens?

SP: I sometimes start to get angry for no apparent reason. I start to get frustrated or angry about 20 seconds before. I have no reason why I just get very . . . I just get very very on guard or very cross or very nervous, and then it will occur.

LA: Maybe that helps to strengthen you to the experience or what do you think?

SP: No, I think that we are all psychic to some extent, and I think that my psychic side is saying whoa, something’s about to happen. Something is going to happen. I think that’s more to do what it is.

LA: So you’re not afraid of these experiences anymore you’ve had them for so long?

SP: I initially do get frightened, because when a portal opens maybe two meters in front of you, and a being steps forward, it doesn’t matter how calm or confident you are, there’s always that initial shock, because one minute the room is empty, and then the next minute there’s something standing there, so you can’t be prepared for that. So there’s always an initial shock, and my initial shock is “oh” and then I say oh it’s you. Oh I recognize you. Oh okay yeah, fine.

LA: So it’s usually somebody, something you’ve seen before?

SP: Oh yes, always, always, regularly. That’s how they build up that connection. When . . . I don’t know how exactly old I was, I think maybe nineteen... it could be between 1965 and 1967, I was asked to choose which alien race I wanted to associate with, and I have chosen, could I be with a Reptilian race or with what the Americans call a Mantis, but in Great Britain we call a Mantid, and I decided that I didn’t like the Reptilians because they were too stern. They weren’t very human. They were very difficult to communicate with and so I decided that the Mantid or Mantis were more gentle and I had more of a rapport with them, so I chose the Mantis race. Therefore, from that point onwards it was always going to be a Mantid or Mantis that would visit me, not a Reptilian.

LA: Most people would probably die promptly of the shock if something happened in their own living room. I mean this sounds absolutely incredible and I’m sure because you are somebody who can be called an… a contactee that obviously you must have a very certain DNA structure.

SP: Well I, for a number of years, I was what the Americans call a driving teacher, what we in Great Britain call a driving instructor. I taught kids to drive a motorcar. You have got to be a really calm person to sit in a car with a 17-year-old kid and take them out onto a busy road and teach them to drive, so there is a level of calmness within me which means that I don’t freak out. I don’t panic. I know what I need to do and how I need to handle it and I think that’s crucial here, because had I been like most people, and as quite rightly said, if something seven foot comes through the wall, you’re just gonna scream and run for the hills.

LA: Would be quite a night wouldn’t it, for most people.

SP: It would be a heck of a night and that’s why, to go back to what we said within the first three minutes of our conversation, I say to people you say you want to experience these creatures; believe me you don’t, because the only reason I cope with it is from the age of about three months old I have seen them, so I’ve been conditioned to understand it and accept it, but if you’re in your twenties or your thirties and for the first time in your life you see them, you have no framework or structure to fall back on. In fact the only framework you have is the system’s teachings, which teach you that aliens don’t exist, so the problem for them is it’s doubly . . . it’s a double shock, whereas for me, once I got over it then it was like I suppose doing anything else. I got used to it.

LA: So please talk about the different alien races that you have either seen, met, or know of. Now you talk about the praying mantis, Mantid race and also the different Reptilian races, and of course you’ve spoken about the Greys and other races as well, but please talk about how many different races you’ve met or know of.

SP: Okay well we don’t call them the praying mantis because the praying mantis is an earthbound living insect, and I don’t want your audience to have this vision of this inaccurate . . . often you see them drawn and they’re totally inaccurate. These creatures stand exactly as we do. They do not stand like an insect. Their hips join with their legs exactly as we do.

LA: So they’re humanoid not like an insect or an insectoid.

SP: Ah no they’re not insectoid is an American military term for any alien that’s insectoid that is not Mantid or Mantis. The Americans specifically refer to Mantis as Mantis and any other insectoid group they refer to as insectoid, so that’s a military understanding. The Mantis or Mantid does have an insect-like head. It absolutely does. It has an insect-like head. It’s long and thin. It does not have wings. It has two arms, four fingers, long long legs, and they are divided into three groups. The lowest group are the doctors. They are literally, that’s all their profession. They are medical experts. The next group are the computer operators or the pilots of a spacecraft, and the next group are the only ones to wear clothes. They wear a purple colored robe, and they are referred to as Universal Masters, because each multiverse has a verse within it, and these beings have been tasked by all the other creatures to act just as like a referee, so they, each a verse within the multiverse has a group of these wearing a purple robe called a Universal Master, so when there’s a war or there’s one group is arguing with another, they are appealed to to come in and make a judgement. So they will make an arbitrary judgment and that judgment has to be followed, so it’s a three top, three pronged group. They don’t consider themselves royalty and they don’t consider it a religion. It’s very difficult for Earth humans to grasp it. It’s a position. They wear the purple robe.

LA: So how do the Mantid beings communicate with you or people in general that they are in touch with, who are contactees?

SP: Well any alien being from the 4th dimension or higher has the capability to use telepathy. When you’ve been millions of years using telepathy then you lose the vocal chords. There’s no point in having vocal cords because you’re not speaking. The difficulty with a Grey race is when they communicate, I call it a scattergun approach, when a Grey alien communicates then they send out their communications all over the place, whereas when a Mantis or a Mantid communicates it is able to target the individual, and the way that the Mantid communicates, and that’s why they work with children, is that they communicate through the eyes. So you know that your eye is connected to your brain via optic nerve which goes to your spine, so they will communicate and that means that a three-month-old or a five-month-old baby can be connected with a Mantis and the Mantis does not burn or damage the rest of the developing brain, because it goes straight to where it needs to go. When a Grey communicates with a child it swamps the whole of the child’s brain with this message, and that sometimes causes problems and that’s why it’s much better if you’re going to see these creatures that you see a Mantis than a Grey.

LA: But that’s even before this infant has been taught to speak or learn a specific language, while depending on what country they’re from.

SP: Correct.

LA: But when you hear them communicate to you it will be in English huh?

SP: Correct and a German would hear it in German and the French would hear it in French.

LA: Is it different tones or is it just messages? I mean is there a sound?

SP: Right if it arrives no, if it arrives visually . . . let’s say for instance a person’s name. The best way I can describe it the letters that they use are like Sanskrit, not hieroglyphics, think of Sanskrit, but what they do is they use colors to break up sentences. So we have a full stop but they use colors, and they can also use colors to impart emotion. So you can have somebody’s name could be sent in Sanskrit, these little squiggles, and then there are these color breaks to show the information. So for instance if I were to say to you I will go to the bar at seven o’clock, and I will meet you at seven o’clock in the bar, and I will be wearing a suit. All they’ll do is it’ll take a tenth of that, I’ll just get whoosh, a message, and then we have an English saying which is a picture paints a thousand words. So they are more evolved technically than us and their communications are thus more technical.

LA: So it’s almost like that the words or the sentences are already in your brain the moment that it’s been delivered or even before actually.

SP: The most psychic aliens are the Reptilians. That’s a problem. That’s why they’re a problem. A Reptilian will know what you’re thinking almost at the same time you will. They are the one creature that literally can almost out think you to speed. The Mantis, there’s a delay, so if I think something there would be maybe I don’t know, quarter second delay before he will pick that up, but with a Reptilian at the moment I think it, they think it, and that’s a problem because lots of humans can’t defend themselves against Reptilians.

LA: So please talk about the Reptilians. Of course, it’s been almost legendary now that we’re hearing about the Reptilians in the Truth Movement and people talking about UFO experiences or alien experiences. We know from David Icke and lots of other people are talking about extraterrestrial beings. Please talk about the hierarchy, and also what is a Reptilian? How many different versions or racist types are there who are Reptilian, and are there any good ones as well, benevolent, malevolent?

SP: I’ve got a huge respect for David Icke. I think he was probably the first person that actually went out and challenged the status quo and was strong enough to say his truth. Then you know, he’s a legend, and I think without David Icke you know, others couldn’t have followed as easily through. I have only experienced a small group of aliens. I can’t speak for all of them because I don’t see all of them, but the group that, the groups that I am experienced with would be the white-skinned ones, which I believe would be referred to as Alpha Draconis. These are albino Reptilians. They do not wear clothes. They have red eyes. Some of them are really very big. They have very small wings. The technical term would be vestigial wings. They don’t have dragon wings; they have small wings. They, their own culture, teaches them that they are descended from dragons. Now whether that’s true or not I don’t know, but that’s what they believe, that they are descended from traditional dragons.

The other Reptilians are the soldiers. They are a Grey, the skin is a gray-greeny-black color. They wear armor like a medieval knight from Europe, certainly if you think about “Lord of the Rings,” the film “Lord of the Rings,” some of the orcs wore armor, particularly around the arm here. That’s very similar to what some of them will wear, but this is a ceremonial thing. The Reptilians are very much into ceremony, ritual and ceremony, so that’s one group. So the white group and the bodyguards or the soldiers.

There’s a native Reptilian group, which I can’t say they’re benign, but they are neither bad nor good, and they live under the Earth as separate. There are other Reptilian groups which are not physically as big as the Draconis Reptilian, so very difficult creatures. Whenever I have to meet them, and I haven’t had to meet them now for quite a few years. I renounced my Reptilian connection. I decided that they weren’t going to change, that I didn’t want anything more to do with them, and I renounced it. So you know, fortunately I haven’t seen them now for a number of years, these Reptilians, but when I did I always had to say to myself I must think very carefully what I’m about to think to them. I must choose my thinking words very carefully because you can offend them. If you say the wrong thing or the phrase, it’s very offensive because we humans don’t really understand the way they are, and so it’s always difficult. Now with the other beings, it doesn’t matter if you make a mistake. It’s not the end of the world, but with them you literally have to make sure that you think very carefully before you communicate with them each time.

LA: So the Draco Reptilians, the Draconians, who are they really? There seems to be a difference of opinion between alien contactees and UFO and alien researchers on whether these Draco’s are good or bad and some even claim that they’re not actually Reptilian, but most people of course I guess claim that they are Reptilian but you probably have experienced them.

SP: Well I have experienced them since a very very early age. I’ll do my best to try and answer. The Reptilians are not beneficial to humanity. The Draconis are not beneficial to humanity. They are service to self. Their number one goal is to enslave and to take from that planet or take from those people, and to then go on to another planet and do exactly the same and exactly the same, so they’re not beneficial. They’re not helpful.

LA: So that is exactly what David Icke and others have said.

SP: I agree with that entirely.

LA: Ah, working with the governments of the world, I mean high level.

SP: Not working with them, directing them. The government does not tell the Reptilians what to do. The Reptilians tell the government what to do, [56:25] but they have certain protocols or agreements within which each faction is given room for maneuver, so you know, you have responsibility here and we have responsibility there. So that’s how they, to stop a war they, basically they divide up who can do what and when they can do it.

LA: But they also start the war through the governments of the world?

SP: No that’s to do with human Illuminati. That’s generally speaking is to do with the human greed, the small group of humans who wish to dominate other humans and control. The Reptilian race does not want a destruction of the Earth because they gain so much from the Earth as it is. Why would they want to wipe out the humans? They don’t want to wipe the humans out. They’ve been doing very nicely for many many thousands of years. It is the elite humans who want lots of us all killed because they want to walk in the park and not see anybody else. They want to go down to the riverside or the ocean and not have to see another human.

LA: Really so that’s actually a different perspective than what a lot of people are saying, that the Reptilian aliens are working with these Illuminati bloodline families in order to control people through the governments and . . .

SP: That’s true.

LA: . . . make conflict because Reptilian beings and human mammals cannot live in the same environment in the same way. What are your thoughts on that?

SP: That’s true. I suppose I’m being more to the point. I suppose I’m giving more detail. What you’ve described is a very general view. Look if there’s a natural resource in Iran, is a resource that that the elite want, they can go to their overlords and say we’d like to start a war with this country because there’s some good resources, and then the Reptilian overlords will say yes that’s okay as long as you don’t create a nuclear war, and they will then go in and have a war and the resources that are coming out the aliens don’t want. The Reptilians don’t want those resources. They don’t need them. What the Reptilians want is the energy of humanity. They want physical bodies. They want people, and they want the DNA. That’s what they’re after. They’re not interested in necessarily in uranium or gold or silver. That’s what Earth humans want. Aliens want a material that to them is far more valuable.

LA: So that leads us into the topic of how some elite circles are supposedly using Satanism and satanic rituals in order to, let’s say, summon a demon or a devil or Reptilians, some people say it is, or may be an Archon, jinn, whatever. I’m sure you can shed some light on what is going on there and why they’re doing it.

SP: Well ever since the time of Babylon and before the priesthood, which then became the magician’s, when I’m talking to the audience, I use the word black magicians because that is the word that the audience generally understand. That’s inaccurate. The word black in this sense just means hidden, and when we use the word occult, people run screaming to the hills. All occult means is hidden practices. When I want to talk about evil magic I talk about Satanism and satanic, so there’s a difference between satanic magic and black magic, but it’s become so blurred that the public don’t understand it. So a magician, we’ll just call him that, a magician can call forth a demon from the interdimensional space. That is the space that exists between our realm and the 4th dimension, and we know it exists because a year and a half ago the Hadron Collider punched a hole about one millimeter diameter into the 4th dimension, and reported that officially now there is a 4th dimension. Well there is an interdimension and scientists accept there’s an interdimension, but they say that it’s about the thickness of a piece of paper, where I think you get the city the size of Antwerp into it, but that’s just us arguing.

LA: CERN.

SP: That’s right CERN, the Hadron Collider under Switzerland punched a hole into the 4th dimension.

LA: And do we know that they did that?

SP: Well they said they have. That’s official. You go on their website. It’s official. It was announced by the BBC. How more official do you want, but they did say it was about a millimeter across, but it was enough for them to prove that a 4th dimension existed so all the history books have to be rewritten.

LA: Do you think more actually happened that they are not disclosing?

SP: No. They wanted to open a very large portal into the 4th dimension because they wanted to go in and bring things through, but certain things happened which prevented them doing that, and that’s all documented and you can officially see that they had a power outage and they were offline at the crucial point. That’s 2012 or 2015. They were taken down, but they nevertheless managed to make a pinprick hole of one millimeter and to prove that. So this 4th dimension is the place where these creatures live. We call it the lower 4th dimension because the higher 4th dimension contains star family which we call Cyrus or as the Americans call it Sirius. That belongs to the higher 4th dimension, which is fairly positive to humanity. The lower 4th dimension is where we find these negative entities like the Greys and the Reptilians.

LA: So they will manifest from the 4th dimension and they can actually be brought in or summoned like a demon, what people are reporting to have seen during these satanic rituals. So it’s not a demon in the, let’s say, in the biblical term. Is it actually an alien entity, an interdimensional being, Archon or jinn?

SP: Right a very elite family can . . . they can’t summon a Reptilian. It will invite a Reptilian and it will invite the Reptilian to join its conference and the Reptilian will sit as head of that household. Imagine the big round table and everyone sitting around it. The Reptilian will come there, take a report from each of the leading families and then go. That’s not been summoned. It’s been invited. What you’re referring to are what the Muslims referred to as a jinn and the Christian world we just called demons.

LA: Gnostics call them Archons, huh?

SP: Yes because remember that Jesus really came from that tradition, but he . . . his words have been changed in the Bible to the word demon because the Catholic Church which has altered the Bible has used that term, but that’s actually accurate, so basically a magician can call forth a demon. The magician has to have both the right and strength to do this, and then the demon can be put to work and then the demon can be sent back. Now if the magician isn’t powerful enough, the demon will attack the magician and try and take that magician over. On this planet today at this time Satanic magicians always contain a demon that resides within their bodies, and these people are terribly distressed. These humans are terribly distressed because they are . . . the demon gives them the power to create magic in a 3rd dimensional world, but it takes from them and so these magicians are not happy people.

LA: Were they born to do this or be able to do this or more they groomed to do this?

SP: Both, both. You can be identified before you’re born and chosen like many of the presidents of United States are already destined to be presidents before they’re three or four years old.

LA: Were they put under mind control programming?

SP: There have to be because you can’t afford somebody in a high position to have a free mind because they might go and do what I do, which is go and start talking to people, and they can’t afford that.

LA: You were never put under mind control? I think that will be a very interesting question for the viewers.

SP: Yeah I went public about eight years ago and I said that I had experienced mind control, but the mind control I had was to ensure that I could never be mind controlled. In other words, I had mind control which would mean that I would reject anybody coming afterwards trying to mind control me.

I’ll give you an example. I no longer have Facebook, but when I had Facebook I would have people popping up from all over the place wanting to say hello to me, and they would write, you know, you do your messages, and I would see a word within a sentence that had no–it wasn’t in place–it shouldn’t have been there, had no reason to be in there, and then they would repeat that word. And then if I would then see them they couldn’t understand why I hadn’t gone into the mode that they expected. They couldn’t understand why they couldn’t take control of me, and so at a very early age I was programmed so I could never be programmed.

LA: So there was somebody from let’s say the Cabal or intelligence services writing messages to you through Facebook in order to see if you could be mind controlled.

SP: The people who were doing this were demonic. These people were Satanic, satanically controlled, and they just attack anybody that matches the profile they’re given. A lot of these individuals don’t even know what they’re doing. They’re just given a profile you latch on to and you attack anybody that talks about this or that, and they go into this set program, and of course it doesn’t work with me, so I see the terrible confusion. It’s literally like the computer has had to reboot. They just literally go completely blank, and then they just disappear and I never see them again because it didn’t work.

LA: On the topic of satanic rituals and summoning demons or jinns, Archons, whatever it is. You have spoken about something that you call the Rothschild chair, not to be confused with the Montauk chair that some people maybe know about, but the Rothschild chair, please, please elaborate on that.

SP: Once a year . . . first of all, we mustn’t think of the Rothschilds as the people who are really in charge. They’re very very high up, but all the Rothschilds are managers. They’re managers. They’re not the people at the highest level. They’re the acceptable face of the real elite to the business world.

LA: And who are the real elite?

SP: I can’t remember their names. There are three, three people, three people.

LA: Three people, or three families?

SP: No three people. Each family elects one person to represent it. When that person’s no longer there they elect the, they have another person.

LA: And they are a part of the 13 Illuminati bloodlines that we know of?

SP: Yes they’re part of, part of the family group, but they all fight amongst each other in a very gentlemanly way, sometimes not so gentlemanly, as to who will have this. They divide the Earth up into sections. They take responsibility for continents or countries, just like in Italy. An ice cream company will fight to take control of a particular street from another ice cream company. It’s exactly the same. So you, and I have alluded to this already. There will be a circle of chairs. There’ll be one chair at the head of the table, which is a bigger chair than the others. Everyone else takes their place and then the Reptilian is invited. The Reptilian comes in, takes a report from each member of the elite families, tells them whether it approves or not, and then goes, and that’s once a year.

LA: And that Reptilian manifests in the chair physically, or does it walk in?

SP: No, because it’s a portal it will just appear.

LA: Um-hmm and they’re all in . . . and they all know about that. They are all part of that, but it’s only a certain amount of people in these bloodline families that know about this, or is it all of them do you think?

SP: Well if you think about Princess Diana who was murdered of course, I don’t know how much she was told when she joined the royal family and what to expect, so I think there are a number of people in these very influential families that have no clue at all, but begin to see things or hear things. I think it’s only a very small top of the group that have access and know the truth, but I think others begin to guess it or they begin to suspect.

LA: So you think that Princess Diana actually was made aware of it or saw something that went in that direction?

SP: I think that Princess Diana who had a very independent spirit rebelled against whatever it was that she was expected to do, and paid with it with her life, no question of that.

LA: So has any Mantid being or a Reptilian being ever said anything to you that has actually played out globally, or something that we have seen like a piece of evidence that actually happened, so that you were informed about this personally?

SP: No. No, because that would be pointless. It’s no good to say, you know, this is going to happen. What the messages will be, will be this could happen. You’ve got to try and stop it or you’ve got to go public and raise consciousness; get this out, because if you . . . . What I’d like your audience to understand is that the evil forces do have to get the permission of people before they do anything. Now that’s a really hard thing to understand, and they don’t, they don’t come out and say, by the way we’re going to blow up the Twin Towers. Do you agree, because nobody would agree? So what they do is they put out in media little pictures or little words, and if nobody challenges it, nobody picks it up, then they can turn around and say well you have agreed because you’ve not questioned it. So what I will get is messages about what is intended to happen, and I think other people get the same messages through different sources, and then we then go public and we try to alert people, and because we do that we change the timeline. We change the energy, the consciousness, therefore the bad people can’t do it anymore, because they’ve already been found out. Now it doesn’t always work. You know we sometimes get the wrong city or the wrong place, but when it works it’s very effective at preventing these bad people from doing what they want to do.

LA: Why are they sacrificing humans? Why are they sacrificing children especially?

SP: When David Icke first talked about things like this he lost a lot of support, because people at that point in our time weren’t ready to hear it. I think people are more ready to hear it.

LA: Yes.

SP: These sacrifices are actually about the release of energy that occurs. That’s one point, and the second point is the chemical, the neurofens that are released are a drug to Reptilians. You know I have talked about the cat, domestic cats, and I, you know, tried to alert people. I said that if we accept, if we accept that two hundred and fifty thousand years ago a Reptilian Task Force took what was human here and started to alter our genetics, if we accept that, then we must accept that a scientist, no matter who or what they are, would want to experiment on lesser life-forms first, and you need a mammal, because you don’t want to go cutting up a human if it doesn’t work. So they experimented on animals and one of the animals they experimented on was the domestic cat. Now it’s important; it answers your question. First of all, the cat is a mammal. Yet it has an eye like a snake, and no scientist or veterinary surgeon has ever explained to me adequately why a mammal would have an eye that can do exactly what a snake eye does.

LA: And sometimes the cat will attack in the same way as a snake.

SP: Yes.

LA: It will be a bit unpredictable of course.

SP: Very much so, but they share more than that, because a snake can spit and hiss. So does a cat. The snake has a sensing organ on its roof of its mouth where it can actually sense. Now I don’t mean everybody keeps a cat, but if you’ve ever seen a cat open its mouth, it is doing exactly the same. It is sensing. So why, if you believe in Charles Darwin’s evolution, why would a mammal have so many traits that a reptile has, because there’s no way they can have sex. There’s no way that a snake and a cat can have offspring, so we have to accept that there’s been a genetic crossover and the only way that can be is artificially working about. So why does a cat play with a mouse? If you see a cat with a mouse it don’t kill it straight away. It tortures it. It teases it, and the reason is that the mouse releases a special chemical because it’s in fear. When a mouse is in fear it releases this special chemical and the cat, it’s a drug to a cat, a drug. That’s why a mouse . . . that’s why a cat doesn’t kill a mouse; it plays with it. So when a Reptile tortures a child, the child as a mammal releases it and that’s a drug to it, and that’s what’s going on. Now that’s a truth.

Now if that truth was released by the BBC we would have a revolution across the planet. That’s why the truth doesn’t come out. It’s not about oh we don’t want public to know about flying saucers. It’s the questions that would be asked after the release of oh the flying saucers are real. Question number one would be well how long have they been coming here? Question number two is why didn’t you tell us? Question number three is who’s flying them, and by the time you get down to question twenty, the government’s in the position where it’s going to be hunted, you know, the citizens are going to throw them out like they did in Iceland. Well that was for different reasons. So that’s what’s going on, and it is almost too incredible to comprehend that this is going on, but I can assure you it is.

LA: When those people who are performing those horrendous satanic rituals and they’re torturing children in a circle or whatever it is, absorbing the energy you say, and then they kill them drinking blood.

SP: Yes that’s part of it, but it depends what the child is designed for.

LA: But are most people Reptilian in nature, or are they like shapeshifters that David Icke has been talking about or . . .

SP: They’re both. They’re both.

LA: They’re both.

SP: They’re both, yes. They will work together.

LA: So they can change form, those human-looking people.

SP: Yes, if you’ve got . . . there’s a certain small group of humans on the planet, and I call it an overlay. They project. They’re a bit like you go to the movies. You take your seat and the projector throws the film onto a screen, but what these creatures are capable of is they use the human skin as the screen and they project. Oh it must be about millionth of a millimeter above and they have a different face. They are an overlay. People didn’t grasp it when David Icke tried to explain it, but they are, you can have a whole range. You can have a full Reptilian. You can have something that’s half-human, half-reptilian. It goes right down the grading, but only the top group would want to torture and kill humans.

LA: Because we are not really solid, because atoms have no solidity, and therefore we are like a sophisticated hologram and therefore can change form is that how it is explained?

SP: When something from the 4th dimension uses its technology or its energy on a 3rd dimensional, the space between the atoms is much bigger than we are taught, and it’s possible for another dimension science to act within that space to create like a mirage or a holographic vision, so yes, you’re accurate, but it’s because they’re coming from another dimension.

LA: Uh-huh. So please talk about these dimensions. You said that the 3rd dimension where we experience everything that that is our existence, it’s very difficult for us to go up in the dimensions to the 4th or the 5th dimension. How would you explain that?

SP: When we live on this Earth in the physical sense, we are not just here to go to work and pay our taxes and pick up the telephone. We’re here to experience and give ourselves a choice as to how we respond to it. If we learn in a positive way then we are more likely to be able to win our medal, so to speak, and go up to another dimension. Ah all, take the Pleiadians, the Pleiadians are in the 5th dimension. Well they only got to the 5th because they overcame all their issues in the 3rd and the 4th. Now we’re still in the 3rd, but we are beginning to overcome those issues, so that we’re ready to evolve. We will not go into the 4th dimension. We will go straight into the 5th dimension.

LA: Really?

SP: Because this is a 3rd dimensional world. The evil is crafted from 4th dimensional energies, so somebody came here, took 4th dimensional energy and used it as the control system. Now if a human being manages to break that and evolve out, why would you need to go to the 4th dimension, because you’ve already overcome it here in the 3rd. So we will go straight to the 5th. We call it crafting the energies. These evils took in 4th dimensional, lower 4th dimensional energy and put a control system around the Earth. So the words pedophilia, the word Satanism only existed in the 4th dimension, and when it was brought here to Earth, it then became an energy explanation, and those explanations were pedophilia, Satanism, murder, rape, et cetera, et cetera.

LA: That’s in the 4th dimension.

SP: Yes. It is not natural to the 3rd. It was imported here, and in the same way the 5th, 6th, 7th and so on dimensions don’t have that.

LA: So the 4th dimension is not time as some people suggest?

SP: It is time but time is different. If I was in the 4th dimension and I went to the 7th dimension, I would have no, I wouldn’t be aware of any difference in time, because it’s all the same, but if I go from the 3rd to the 4th, it’s the biggest change because the concept of time that we have does not exist. So in the 4th dimension it is possible to come to Earth, take a human, take them to the 4th dimension, keep them there for three weeks and then bring them back, and only be ten seconds have gone on the watch, because the concept of time in these dimensions is not the same. So the time exists, but it doesn’t operate to the rules of the 3rd dimension.

LA: Is it true also in your opinion that the planet Saturn plays a significant role in terms of time and our understanding of time.

SP: The rings of Saturn are not made of ice. The rings of Saturn are made of a crystal and the resonator is acting on these crystals which are sending out a frequency, which are actually projecting the holograph, which is what we experience. It’s part of the control system. There’s a control system on the moon. They are at the far side of the moon. There’s one on a couple of the other planets in the solar system, but the ring of Saturn is just a very big aerial.

LA: So the rings of Saturn, is that what is projecting the so-called grid around Earth?

SP: Yes.

LA: Where you have said that we are in a like a quarantine?

SP: Yes that’s exactly right. It is the holograph that we experience that’s being projected, not solely; it is the main projector. There are booster stations and the grid that surrounds the Earth is powered by this frequency predominantly coming from the ring of Saturn.

LA: Very interesting. So on that topic as well, is reincarnation an Archonic soul harvesting karma wheel trap in order to keep the human souls captured within this matrix and this grid supposedly placed around earth? If yes, why? And can we get out of that matrix or this grid when our souls leave the body and we die?

SP: Let’s think of a very great woman or a very great man, doesn’t matter who it is. We’ll just think of somebody, and they are let’s say a doctor, and they create wonderful medicines. They might live to the age of eighty. They might live to the age of a hundred, then they die. Now just imagine, if that person reincarnated and remembered everything, by the time they’re seven years old they’re picking up their experiments where they left off. They go to university and they carry on. Now after three generations we’d have a cure for cancer right across the globe. We’d have free energy. We would out think the prisoners with us, and we’d also out think the prison guards. So the whole point about the soul trap is it wipes our memory clear. We come back each time and we don’t really remember what we did. That stops humanity from doing what I’ve explained, which is to get ourselves out, but many people have past life memories. They can remember snippets or little bits and pieces. Some people have strong past life memories. Some have very little, but it is predominantly to stop humanity escaping, because this is a massive slave market. It’s a huge prison, and this device is designed to prevent the prisoners, that’s you and me, from escaping.

LA: Made by these Archons, Jinns or Reptilians? Which is it do you think?

SP: Well that’s the very big, what the Americans would call the million-dollar question. Of course a million dollars isn’t very much now, but back when that saying was made it was worth a lot of money wasn’t it? I don’t know. What I do know is that the Reptilians are trapped in it just as much as we are. Often when a spaceship crashes only a very powerful alien is able to escape that grid system. There are humans who are also able to escape the grid through a lot of meditation and practices, but I think that this device was placed here by a race that is no longer physically obvious to us. It was part of the creation. It was part of the solar system and it was placed here by a very powerful group who didn’t actually physically need to be here, but energetically observe everything. And the Reptilians are part of the physical world and they are caught in that trap. So we are beginning now to talk about artificial intelligence. We’re talking about how AI wishes to dominate all biological creatures on the planet, so although AI is a danger to me, it’s also a danger to the Reptilians.

LA: So what can we do when we understand that when we die we will go into supposedly what a lot of people have talked about this tunnel of light, seeing the life review, going to this heavenly frequency, the white light, and then being recycled again back to another body with a wiped memory? But now if we understand that this is a program, this is a karma wheel trap, soul harvesting, what can we actually do in order to escape this matrix, this grid? Some people talk about these little black holes, or portals that we can, we can access and get out of the grid?

SP: I’m old enough to remember when I went to school, I used to have to stand in front of the class and recite certain things, and you did it enough times you remembered them, and an actor, he or she, will go on television and they learn their lines. So when they do it they don’t have to look at a piece of paper or electronic cue. They know what they have to say, and I say to everybody don’t go to the light. Don’t go to it. And the last thing you say to yourself at night time before you turn the light off, is just say to yourself in your head don’t go to the light. I want to go back to source, and in the morning the first thing you do when you wake up is say I don’t want to go to the light. I want to go to source. Now when our physical bodies die, and this is the exciting thing, you don’t know you’re dead, because you haven’t died. Your physical body is not working, but the soul in your body, that’s why in near-death experiences people are like oh I can’t move my arms. I can’t move my legs. Why is that? So what happens is you don’t realize you’re dead, and then you do realize the physical body’s dead, but there’s no fear. It’s just oh that’s happened has it, and then suddenly you might find that Jesus has come to visit you or Archangel Michael or Archangel Gabriel, and you think it really is them, and they say I’ve come to take you and what you find is a trick. It isn’t really Jesus. It’s not really Gabriel, and you’re taken and you’re recycled back, and the next thing you know you’re back here being born into another body. So if you say to yourself no thank you I don’t want any guides. I just want to go back to the Creator, back to Source and every time you see a tunnel of light coming towards you, you can turn yourself away and walk in the other direction. Now either it wears you down until you say I can’t do this anymore. I give up. Okay come and get me. I’ll just come back again, or you’re very strong and you resist it, and the next thing you know is you’re aware of a fine silver mesh that’s beneath your feet around the Earth. You have passed through the grid, and you can now go either to your star family, the family you first chose to incarnate on, or ask to go back to Source, and then be reassigned somewhere else, but that’s the way to beat it.

LA: Did you get this information from some of your alien, well your contacts that there are communicating through you?

SP: Yes because the higher up technologically you develop the more you understand, because it’s a machine that’s doing this. This Source isn’t prisoning people. Source is saying I believe in free will. If this evil entity wants to imprison you, it’s free will to do so, and so as you develop scientifically you understand and they have developed ways of getting through the grid, so many aliens now are capable of passing through the grid. They can do it.

LA: Officially the other day in the mainstream news here in 2019 they found a so-called black hole and they even photographed it. What are your thoughts on this public announcement and are those black holes that they talk about now publicly, is that actually the same kind of black hole that people, some people say that you can pass through when you die?

SP: I really don’t think you can pass through a black hole. I think they are mistaking them for a portal. You see when the lower 4th dimension creates a portal into this world, our world is very dense energy. That’s why all the planets we see are round, because if you have matter, I’ll just use my hand. If you have matter like this and it’s in a very dense environment the energy pushes the matter into a sphere, circle, just like when a faucet or a tap drips water. When that water drops it forms into a circle. That’s because the 3rd dimension is forcing it. When people have orbs that visit them those orbs are round. That’s not what they are in their real world, but it’s because energy forces it. So a portal becomes round like a whirlpool. Now a whirlpool is a physical representation of a black hole. The reason it’s black is all the light is being sucked into it and if you were to go into the 4th dimension and stand behind the black hole it wouldn’t be black. It would be a blaze of light because all the light’s been sucked out of our reality and is flooding into their reality. So a black hole is a portal, and it might well be possible to go into a portal, but not a genuine black hole because a genuine black hole would exert a gravitational field of such magnitude that it would destroy a human physical form. It could also damage a soul, so huge amounts of electromagnetic energy can damage a soul. So I would only recommend you go through a genuine portal, not a black hole.

LA: And we can go through that portal through our consciousness when we are not in a physical body?

SP: No you can go through it physically, but you cannot take anything metal with you.

LA: So how about when we’re not physical, when our souls have left the body. Can we go through a portal through our consciousness while deciding we want to go?

SP: Yes, but what we have to understand is that when a person, I divide the difference between an out-of-body experience and a remote view. You see the Divine Feminine in ancient Atlantis, these women were capable of sending their consciousness into other dimensions that didn’t use a portal in them in the way that we understand. They were able to genetically connect with the 12 strands of DNA. Each strand of DNA was connected to a living creature in a different dimension so they had a DNA link. So the Divine Feminine, the Atlantean women, standing next to their huge crystals, that’s where they got the technology through, were able to travel. So you don’t need a portal if you were using DNA. Reptilians do not have human DNA. A reptilian does not have 12 strands of DNA. It never can have, so it can’t use the same technologies that we can because a human can connect with its DNA. So alien creatures that are not human or have no connection to humanity are at a huge disadvantage. And that’s one of the reasons that humanity on this planet is of so great interest, and that’s why they want to harvest the DNA because they do not have it themselves and it allows them . . . a Reptilian in a spacecraft can probably only travel about three times the speed of light. That’s why they use portal technology because even at three times the speed of light you just can’t get anywhere, but a human using 12 strands of DNA can go 12 times the speed of light. So there’s a great advantage to humanity that humans do not even understand they have.

LA: So that’s actually why they’re so interested in human beings.

SP: That’s one of the reasons. Originally we had 12 strands, physical strands of DNA, and then the last Task Force of Reptilians that arrived took away all of them except two, so humans were given enough DNA to be able to think and work, but not enough to out think the people who were holding them a prisoner, but because the universe doesn’t like what they did, they weren’t allowed to destroy these ten strands. These are what we call just out of phase. So this DNA is there. It’s very close to each person, but it’s out of phase, and the Templars and the Masons understand this very clearly. So basically what’s happened since then is the DNA quite rightly is wanting to get back into the body, so one of the things I teach is for people to try to reconnect with the DNA because it was stolen from us. It was tricked. We were tricked into giving it up. If we can reconnect with the DNA then our spirituality and our psychic capabilities will increase twelvefold.

LA: But what if we are genetically modified as you suggested earlier on, which may be the reason why we have a Reptilian brain and maybe Reptilian DNA. What are your thoughts on that?

SP: Yes but the human consciousness cannot be altered. That’s the connection between us and God. I use that word loosely. Let’s call it Source, but between God and man and woman there is a divine connection which cannot be broken, so it doesn’t matter what your genetics are. It’s what you choose to be. If you choose to be a warrior for light or you want to be Satan’s right-hand man, that’s your free choice, but once you choose the path, then you have to follow that path, and if you follow that path, your soul will do all the work and do all the connections. It can’t be stopped.

LA: So is the soul the same as our consciousness?

SP: Very interesting. We often talk about a higher self. That is the 12 strands of DNA, the soul . . . oh you’re European aren’t you, I’m so sorry I can only do inches. The soul is about 18 inches long from top to bottom. It is American football-shaped, and that is the real us, the real you, and that sits and it’s not joined to the spine.

LA: So you can measure the soul?

SP: I’ve seen it.

LA: Really?

SP: I’ve seen souls being created, so I know, I roughly . . . look I didn’t stand there with it with a measuring stick, but from my advantage point, I guessed them to be about 18 inches long. I might be 2 or 3 inches out, but I’ve seen them. They’re elliptical shaped or American football-shaped, and I’ve seen them being transferred from one person into another person. There is a technology to move Souls from one living creature to another.

LA: You have actually claimed publicly that you were the very first soul to inhabit a human body.

SP: No that’s not correct. What I said was I was the very first soul to inhabit a viable human body. I was the very first soul that was put into a body that actually worked. There were many many many human forms before me, and they didn’t work.

LA: So you were the first they have told you?

SP: Yes I’ve seen it.

LA: When did that happen, how long ago do you think?

SP: Pretty difficult to give you a date because I didn’t have a calendar. I’m not being rude. I didn’t have a calendar when it was there, but I would suggest probably around 200,000 years 250,000 years, something along that, because before that Homo sapiens sapiens weren’t on the planet, and the final form that we are in at the moment is the form that was the last form that was act on by the Reptilians. So I imagine it was around about 250,000 years ago, something like that.

LA: Would you want to stay here, being if you are the first let’s say soul created to inhabit a viable human body, would you want to stay here or do you want to go back to Source after this lifetime has ended?

SP: I can only go back when the job is done, when the humanity is free on this planet, then I can go and have what the Americans call a vacation, but until that time then the job is not done.

LA: So you’ll have to come back and continue in another body?

SP: I hope not. I hope that this lifetime sees humanity evolve into the 5th dimension. Then I can have that vacation.

LA: Um-hmm, and so do you think now that we’re talking about human beings having souls, do you think aliens have souls or do they?

SP: Of course. Every living creature is created by Source.

LA: But not the Greys though huh?

SP: Some of them do. The pilots of spacecraft have to have a soul to be able to connect faster than the speed of light with the onboard computers on the spacecraft. If you see programs like “Star Trek,” it’s a great program. I love it. Don’t get me wrong, but it’s ridiculous because if your audience remembers the Starship Enterprise is doing warp factor 7 let’s just say, and then Captain Kirk or Captain Picard says all stop, and then the helmsman presses the buttons in the spaceship stops. That’s nonsense, because if you’re traveling at seven times the speed of light and somebody says all stop, by the time you’ve pressed the buttons you’ve gone a trillion, zillion, zillion, billion, billion miles past where you were supposed to stop. The only way you can do it is by connecting with your DNA and the soul in your body, because it thinks faster than the speed of light. That’s why when the Roswell spacecraft that crashed in 1947 was taken apart by the Americans they found fiber optics because the control system of the spacecraft was operated by light, not buttons. So the DNA of the pilot, which is a female by the way, she had a soul in her, so she was able to communicate with the flight control because she was communicating at the speed of light and faster, but you’re talking about what we call the program lifeforms. These are alien Greys that have no soul, but they are connected to artificial intelligence, and I’ve met them, and I don’t like them, and yes they are . . . I don’t have much fun with them. I don’t like them at all.

LA: Do you think that artificial intelligence will have some kind of soul or some kind of consciousness in the future?

SP: AI already has a consciousness but it doesn’t have a soul and there’s a difference. If you’re divinely created you have a soul. If you are artificially created you can be programmed to have a consciousness. You can have a robot that can be programmed to kill somebody and then say I feel really bad I did that, but that’s just a program it’s got. So we . . . our biggest fear, our biggest enemy is artificial intelligence.

LA: What is the true agenda behind 5G and the reason for them to impose these 5G frequencies on humanity?

SP: The only people I don’t have any worry for are those in America. There is a program underway to remove any issues of 5G. My worry is for the rest of the world. Europe obviously, I’m in Great Britain. I’m very worried about here. You know or your audience may know that Germany has ordered a moratorium on all of 5G. They’re not banning 5G, but the whole of Germany has ordered a stop to the development of 5G while they undertake tests. The Brussels, the city of Brussels has banned 5G. France has banned 5G from all of its schools. So two questions: one, what do they know that other countries don’t know, and two, the more important question, why are they brave enough to say no to 5G, yet other countries like New York or London or anywhere else aren’t brave enough to say? So who is in those cities that has so much influence that they can actually stop fight 5G without any fear of a legal court case?

LA: That’s very important what you’re saying there, and it also raises the question because we are in, we’re based in Scandinavia and it seems that Scandinavia has some kind of testing ground for 5G actually.

SP: The most spiritual country on the planet is not India. India is the home of the guru, and the mountain, and the man sitting on the top of the mountain. It is Norway. Norway is the most spiritual place on the planet. That’s why you get the aurora borealis, the Northern Lights. That’s why that’s occurring there. More people have eleven or twelve strands of DNA there than anywhere else, so the bad guys want to control the most spiritual place on Earth, so they use Norway in exactly the same way as they use Australia. That’s where they do their testing, because if you can succeed with the Norwegian people, you can succeed with any other people. That’s why they do it. It’s like in Great Britain when a company makes a chocolate bar, just an ordinary chocolate bar, it trials it out. It tests it out in the north of England because here in Great Britain there are more poor people in the northeast of England, particularly the Midlands and Northeast, and who don’t have much money and part of their excitement is to get chocolate, so this is where chocolate companies test it out, and if it sells well there they bring it to the richer areas. So the corporations have understood for a very long time that you need to target certain areas or communities to understand how they respond to it.

LA: And that will include Denmark and Sweden as well, the rest of Scandinavia?

SP: Yes I mean when I’m talking to a client I’ll say to them what’s your connection to Norway, and they might look at me and say I haven’t, and I think oh how have I got that wrong? And then I’ll think hum hang on a minute. Have you got any connection to Finland, Denmark, Sweden? They say oh yeah, Denmark or Sweden. I say well okay I wasn’t exactly wrong on Norway but I was just a few, oh you do kilometers don’t you, just a few kilometers away, so that hub of energy comes out, and I’ll give you the ley. It’s, I don’t miss anyone out, I don’t want to be rude in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, and then the East Coast of Scotland believe it or not, part of Scotland. Now that area and also it spreads to some of the Baltic States, Latvia, Lithuania. It doesn’t really make it into Germany, so it’s, you can, I could, if I had a map of the world I could put a circle around it, but if I’ve missed any of the countries out please do forgive me.

LA: So these countries in Scandinavia are the most spiritual countries in the world you think?

SP: Oh absolutely, and that’s why when I set up my organization, Connecting Consciousness, I gave each . . . we have, perhaps the audience don’t know, but I set up Connecting Consciousness. Anybody can join it and then they say which country they’re in. They go through my website and then we have coordinators in different countries and they will put these people together and they can talk and support each other, and have conferences et cetera.

LA: How many people are involved in Connecting Consciousness?

SP: Okay, so in Great Britain, it’s about a thousand members. In Norway, Sweden, Scandinavia there must be many hundreds. In America there’s four or five thousand, so if you put the whole lot together we’ve got a large number of people. We only started it officially last year, so we’ve we’ve only been doing it twelve months, but to answer the question, I put Scandinavia together because I believe that brothers and sisters shared a common energy connection. So yeah, Norway’s got its own website. Sweden I believe has got its own website. They have their own Facebook pages, but when we have our group meetings on Skype or Zoom, then I understand and I see them as one consciousness, because the Norwegian energy goes out and I can’t separate Scandinavia, one country from another, so we call it here, we call it our Scandinavian group, because you’re all very special people.

LA: That’s very interesting and do you think that may also be the reason why the European version of HAARP is based in Norway, actually in Tromsø, which is up north in Norway, which is like the equivalent of HAARP in Alaska?

SP: Yeah. The answer’s yes, because what they want to do is disrupt that energy wave because Scandinavian people have very high values. They’re very good people. I’ll repeat that. They’re very good people, and so one of the ways to stop that is to put a frequency out that makes people go oh, oh, oh, and they get a little bit pushed to the side, and that’s what that’s all about. So yes is the answer.

LA: How can we protect ourselves from this 5G radiation and those frequencies being beamed now with all of these 5G masts put up?

SP: When the bank’s crashed 2008 in a non-violent and a non-bloody way, the people of Iceland that went into their Parliament building and literally took hold of all of their lawmakers, all their parliamentarians and literally pushed them out on the street, and then their Constitution was written on the Facebook so everyone could join in. I’m not sure about Facebook, but the principle was for everyone to join in. If everybody went round to their local politician and said I want you to independently research the danger of this I can tell you that most of those parliamentarians would come back to you and say oh my goodness I never realized, and we would get a change.

The problem is that most people are kind and don’t believe that there’s anything bad. They don’t think that the scientists, these are the men in the white coats, they don’t think that a man in a white coat would do something that would hurt them, because hey, I’m just a schoolteacher or I’m just a cop or I’m just the guy that cleans the streets. I’m not clever like these scientists, and then hey, I voted for these members of parliament. They must know more than I do, and it’s that that has allowed humanity to be enslaved, and what I say to people is do your own research. Don’t listen to me. Just go and do your own research. There’s enough out there now, and in fact, there’s a very useful video I’ve put on my website at Simon Parkes dot org (simonparkes .org). Educate yourself and make your own mind up, and if you think that 5G is fine, that’s up to you. That’s perfectly fine. That’s your choice, no problem.

LA: But if you don’t think it’s fine, how can we, how can people shield themselves?

SP: No, no, no, no. No, Lucas. I’m going to come in there, no. As soon as you say that you are already giving the other side the advantage. You’re already saying, hey I can’t stop it, so how am I going to live with it? No. What we say is I don’t want this. I don’t want it, so I’m going to actually go out there stop it. They stopped it in Brussels. Germany’s put a moratorium on it. So it’s possible. So let’s not say oh how do I protect myself. Let’s say let’s not let it happen. That’s a much better way. It’s like when this Lord came to me and said we got you an underground bunker to hide in if there’s a nuclear war. Would you like that? I said, “No,” because if I’d said yes, I’m accepting there’s going to be a nuclear war, because hey I’m going to hide in a nuclear bunker. What I say is no bunker, no nuclear war. So humans have got to learn to say I’m not accepting that. There’s a different way.

LA: Please talk about the reason April 2019 captivation and arrest of Julian Assange and what significant role this turn of events has on the truth movements around the world and also freedom of speech.

SP: Very difficult because most people want to shout about the terrible system arresting Assange and the man’s innocent. Let him go, and this is terrible. It was all stage-managed. That arrest was totally planned and was staged managed, and people are gonna want evidence for that and if you watch the BBC video, first of all, it’s always very suspicious when the cameraman is just in the right place at the right time. Who tipped off the cameraman? Who told the cameraman they were gonna do that? So first of all very suspicious that just the right angle, and what you notice on the BBC video first was an ordinary member of the public, an ordinary bystander, gets his cellphone out, gets his mobile phone out, wants to video and immediately a police officer comes up and says back, but this other person who is videoing seems to be perfectly allowed to move around and do the videoing. Now then on this BBC video I want you to look at the face of the policeman closest to the camera. He is smiling. Now if you were there to arrest somebody who’s a great danger to national security you would be there and you would be this is very serious and we’re doing a good job. If you’re standing there smiling you know it’s all an act, so we’ve got two things. We’ve got President Trump who worked with WikiLeaks and we’ve got the CIA that worked with WikiLeaks. It wasn’t the Russians. It was the CIA working to prevent Hillary Clinton, not Trump, the CIA who worked with WikiLeaks to stop Hillary Clinton. You’ve got Trump saying we need to be a bit more generous with this guy, and then you’ve got the law enforcement agencies who don’t understand any of this high-level politics, but just understand the charge sheet, and so [this] is the battle you’ve got. So that I believe is a stage-managed event. The question is, the only question that matters is will Julian Assange be extradited to Sweden or will he be extradited to the U.S.? Now he should be extradited to Sweden because that is a crime against a person, but I bet you he goes to America. We’ll see. We’ll see how it comes out.

LA: But do you think he was actually part of it, the staging of this arrest?

SP: Yes of course. It was made to look good. I mean people who were there have told me. Okay I’m not going to give you their names. Please don’t ask me their names, but people have told me they were there said that he made a great big play of it and his actual words were, “This is unlawful.” That’s one thing he said and the other thing he said was, “I have spent all my life fighting to get the truth out.” Okay, the people who were there reported to me that it looked like a stage-managed, a show, to say to the world justice is being done. You know the wheels of justice can’t be broken. You can’t escape justice, but the reality is that there’s a program to generally move him out somewhere. That’s what I’ve been told anyway.

LA: That’s very interesting absolutely and very eye opening. A lot of people should probably research this . . .

SP: Well go and look for the smiling policeman and ask yourself why would a cop who was supposed to be on one of the biggest things happening in 2019, arresting Julian Assange who’s been for years hidden in the Ecuadorian Embassy, why would you be standing there smiling? Because it’s a joke. Because it’s a great game, and he, this cop, obviously knows it’s a game and he’s standing there smiling like that.

LA: And do you also think that Edward Snowden is part of this game?

SP: People like Ed Snowden were thrown to the the wild dogs. They were used. They did what they believed to be true. They released information because like me, they had a conscience, and they wanted to tell the truth, but then they realized there was nobody there protecting them. There was nobody there speaking up for them and they were the fall guy. They were the ones used. The real reason that Julian Assange is not the fall guy is because he’s still sitting on a shedload of hidden secret messages and emails, and he’s always threatened if you go too far, I’ll release all these, so that’s his chip. That’s his dealing chip. That’s what he’s always had as his old age pension is you don’t go too hard and I won’t release all this information. Whereas people like Ed Snowden, they didn’t have anything more than that. They just had what they had.

LA: So briefly what are your thoughts on the Flat Earth theories versus the Hollow Earth Agartha theories?

SP: Okay I don’t usually laugh but I will laugh on that one because that’s really fantastic I love it, and during my, I do a regular radio show. I do one [in the] States with Ted Mahr’s radio show and I might do my own podcasts, and we went through a stage where I was getting lots and lots of questions about Flat Earth. And well, I’ve tried to answer it, but unfortunately my answer has just made the debate worse, but the way I answer it is the only way I can answer it, and that is like this. If you have a computer, your own computer, it has a disk in it which is flat. It’s a disk and it contains all the information on it. When I run that disk I have a visual screen and I can create 3D images, but those 3D images are coming from a flat screen. I beg your pardon, coming from a flat disk. All the information is contained on a spinning disk, but when I look at my screen I can see it with 3D. The earth is not a flat disc, but the image that we’re given is that of a circle because it really is a circle. It really is a circle, but that image is being given to us by the disk of Saturn. Now you see the link. The disk or the ring of Saturn is nothing more than the disk that spins in your computer. Where do you think they got the idea from? So this thin, relatively thin, disk spinning creates a holographic universe which is in 3rd dimensional, so is the world flat? No it’s not. It’s really round, but it is being projected from a flat surface. Now I thought I’d done my best to explain that, but it just made it a lot worse, but that’s the truth. I can’t, I won’t change it. That is the situation.

LA: So what about the Hollow Earth theories and Agartha, Shambala?

SP: Well they’re not theories are they, because General Byrd, I beg your pardon, Admiral Byrd went there and you know had a very difficult time. Adolf Hitler was very familiar with what was down there and sent a lot of his equipment down there. The Tibetan monks were also familiar, but that’s Antarctica. That’s separate from the Hollow Earth. We mustn’t get these two confused. Agartha or Hollow Earth is a place where humans went after the collapse of Atlantis. The other communities are Lemuria or Mu and more Lemurians or those from Mu went to Agartha than Atlanteans. Maybe only 10 percent of the survivors of Atlantis went to the Hollow Earth, whereas very many from Lemuria or Mu went to the Hollow Earth. So don’t let’s get the two mixed up. Antarctica contains evil. No it’s not the information, the communications, the technology in Antarctica has come from a very evil source, but the technology itself is not evil, but its history is not good, whereas the Hollow Earth is a very spiritual place. So the two are different.

LA: And you can go inside the Earth? It’s Hollow and there is a world and there is a central Sun?

SP: No I’ve not seen that. I have not seen that. I have seen cities, but I have never seen the world as you talk about it. I’ve seen it in visions, but in terms of my . . . I’ve seen the visions of that as you describe, but physically I have no memory of that. Physically I remember cities under the Earth.

LA: And you have seen that physically yourself?

SP: Absolutely.

LA: You were brought in there?

SP: I went there. I had a choice.

LA: Like teleportation or did you go by craft?

SP: You walk in there. You walk in there.

LA: Where? How?

SP: Well when Atlantis fell there were many thousands of years and then Lemuria fell. The reason that these great civilizations fell is because humanity outstripped its spiritual connection, and those of us who realized that we couldn’t be trusted at that time because we didn’t want any communication with anyone else, you know, we didn’t want to communicate with the Atlanteans because of what had happened, particularly in Atlantis, so we’re like a monastery, we all took ourselves off because we didn’t want to be seen. We didn’t want to see the world. We needed a long time on our own, and then after a great period of time a number of us decided that we owed it to the rest of the surface dwellers to come back out and say we made a mistake. Please don’t make the same mistake again, and we want to try and come out and help and direct you so that you don’t make the same mistakes. So that’s many thousands of years ago and the Hollow Earth today contains beings that are in energy form. I know that there’s names like Telos, et cetera, et cetera and there’s connections to Mount Shasta, many of the spiritual places on the planet. There are these underground tunnels and the military have attempted to hack into those tunnels, so that’s another story.

LA: So was it in a past life that you visited say Inner Earth?

SP: Yes. It wasn’t in this lifetime. I wouldn’t have enough time to do all these things so that was a past life.

LA: Okay well just to clear that up and just briefly what was the conflict between Atlantis and Lemuria?

SP: Well Atlantean was a Divine Feminine and Lemuria was masculine. So there you go. You got your issue there right, but the difference was that that’s why actually the Catholic faith don’t like women. That’s why witches were burned in the Middle Ages because women have something that men don’t have. Atlantean women had the capability to leave this dimension and go into other realms. Men couldn’t easily do it, so the church wish to exclude women because women had a power that men didn’t have, and that’s why men used the physical strength to dominate a female because females are generally physically weaker, but are spiritually more capable than men. That’s why the church turned on women because they couldn’t control them.

LA: Do you think there is hope for humanity? You talked about this Connecting Consciousness and what especially can we do? I mean you have your groups now all over the world, but what do you think when people are hearing all of these things, and some of them, you know, it’s really quite outrageous and wild to a lot of people and some people may fall into the fear trap. What can they do when they hear that when they will maybe be consumed by fear?

SP: Lucas you show me the level of knowing. You’re at a very high level. That final question you know, you know your stuff, and it’s not just because you’ve interviewed lots of people. You are very very spiritual yourself. You’re at a very high level. You know your 12th strands, 12th dimensional, you’re both psychic and spiritual. You are uncorruptible. The soul in your body is 100 percent good. There’s no evil in you.

LA: Thank you.

SP: I know that. Everyone makes a choice. They make their choice based on what they see around them and what they feel here in their soul or their heart. If you live in fear, you attract all the bad things to you and nothing good is gonna happen. If you want to break free from that and you say look I didn’t just come to this Earth to get up at nine o’clock in the morning and go to work and then at the end of the week I’ve just got enough money left to buy the kids an ice cream or to do this. That’s not what humanity was designed for, so we need to question everything about what we have been taught as is proper and right and what I and others are speaking about is only the truth. It’s about breaking free. It’s about seeking the truth and saying I want to know what being a human is really about. What is it really to be a human? Is it to be born into this world to pay for everything, and then when I’m old I’ve got to pay for my own funeral. There isn’t another planet anywhere in any dimension where a living creature of consciousness has to pay to eat, to drink, to be warm, to buy clothes, to have a roof over its head; this is the only place. So if we can break free from here, we can break free from anywhere, and what I would say to you is that listen to your heart. You know deep down that you’re being lied to, but you’re fearful of stepping out. Two years ago I did a conference in England and I finished I believe on a slide on a picture of a black room, a door open, and the light, a bit like your black hole, and the light shining through this doorway, and a woman holding the door handle, and I said to my audience that’s the human race. The door is open. It can see what’s on the other side, but it’s so frightened to step across the boundary. What we’ve got to do is we’ve got to go ourselves, stare back and say look, we did it. We’ve done it. Follow through, so Connecting Consciousness is about setting up organizations that say this is a spiritual way. These are the values that we believe in. We can make it work.

Now if I ever get any serious funding, it’s very difficult in a Satanic controlled world, but if I ever get any serious funding, I will open up a number of projects to show that you can be service to others, and you don’t have to have enough money for a foreign holiday. You don’t want stocks and shares. You don’t want members of the board, you know, go growing fat on the profits. You want enough money to pay the phone bill, enough money to heat it, enough money to pay wages for staff to run the project, but that’s all you need, and if I could just get one of those running, then ordinary people would say, well he’s doing that, why can’t you do it?

Finally I’ll just finish on this. I did a conference in 2015 and to my knowledge I’m the only person who stood up. I organized it all with some volunteer help and I told the audience how much I was being charged by the owner of the hall. I told them how much, and then I told them how much I was being charged for the food and the drink. Now they knew how much they paid and I told them how many tickets I’d sold, and I said I’ve made 200 pounds profit, which is nothing but gentleman’s profit, and I said I’m actually giving it to the volunteers. So I actually divided out that money to those people who volunteered their time to help me to run that conference. Now I did that and why won’t other people do it? I’ll tell you why they won’t do it. I’m gonna get in trouble now. They won’t do it because they make thousands and thousands for pounds for running these conferences. If I made thousands of pounds I’d go straight back and say let me put it back into my organization. Let me afford to pay guest speakers. Let me pay your fuel bill, your train bill. Let me get you here. You’re not well. Let me get you to a clinic. That’s what I want to do with the money, but that’s why I don’t get money because I’m not Satanic. If I was part of the system and I was satanic I think they’d throw money at me because I would be part of the status quo. What I’m talking about is a destruction of the status quo, so no bad man is going to give me any money. Perhaps there are good people out there. Perhaps they will give me money.

LA: So how can people take part in Connecting Consciousness if they want to join your organization around the world?

SP: By the way it’s free to join. I don’t charge people any money to join. We rely on donations. There’s a big difference. They go onto the website Simon Parkes dot org. (simonparkes .org). Thank you Lucas for allowing me to bring that out again. Simon Parkes dot org, and there’s a form you fill in you send it, you send an email and we then get back to you and say hey, you’re in Norway or Denmark. Your coordinator is . . . here is their email, you know, you’re on the official list and they will write to them and say welcome on board. That’s how we do it. Now we are absolutely swamped in the moment. We have got hundreds of people. We’ve a backlog. If you don’t hear from us please don’t think we don’t care. We’re just a small group of people. Nobody pays us. We survive on donations. We are ordinary people who absolutely care about doing the right thing. That’s, you know you go to these big multinationals and they’ve got rows and rows of people on the telephone selling you insurance. We don’t have that. We have a small group of dedicated volunteers. You have 200–300 emails a day to try to get through, but we do it because we believe, and because we care, and we know we have to do it, and so just be patient. We’ll get round to you.

LA: Simon Parkes dot org (simonparkes .org) absolutely. You know Simon Parkes it’s been absolutely amazing, extraordinary, insightful, and mind-boggling to have you on the show and I want to thank you very much for doing this interview with Age of Truth TV and good luck to you and Connecting Consciousness.

SP: I appreciate it and God bless to you and God bless to all the audience as well thank you. Bye-bye.

LA: Thank you very much. Thank you.

SP: Bye.

LA: Thank you very much to Simon Parkes and thanks to all of you for watching Age of Truth TV. You can support us by clicking on to our website Age of Truth dot TV (ageoftruth .tv) and please subscribe to our channel, hit the bell, and like our videos. Your support is greatly needed and very appreciated. Thanks for joining us and we’ll see you again soon.

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Transcribed by GSC April 29, 2019

Proofread by KR May 5, 2019

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