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Earth Sky Radio and TV, Interview by Victoria Vives Khuong

Part 1, 11 April 2015

Simon discusses his earth biological family, mother and father. Government disclosure of the off world situation is discussed. Also who are the off planet groups here, off planet groups are discussed in two different places. Alien encounters and their purpose. Simon’s mother’s job and her exposure to top secret information. Some characteristics of experiencing the 4th dimension. Lastly, we live in a system that is built on hierarchy not equality.

Victoria Khuong: Hello, This is Victoria Vives Khoung with Earth Sky Radio and Earth Sky TV. We have here with us today, Councillor Simon Parkes. He was elected to office, even after he went public in regards to his interactions to Extraterrestrials. These experiences include the Mantids, Draconis Reptilians, [unintelligible .20] and many others.

Simon, it is an honor to have you here with us today, welcome to Earth Sky People.

Simon Parkes: Thank you, I am delighted to be able to speak to you and to the audience.

VK: So one of the first things that I would like to ask, is about your biological family.

SP: OK, well you mean my earth family. OK. Well, I did have a mother and a father. My mother was a very, very gifted typist, she was an administrator, she had very good spelling skills and therefore all her jobs were in offices. After a while she got a job in a legal department and she met some very important people. She learned to understand very important documents, very long complicated formulas and often saw blue prints.

She did that for about a year and then her father, (my grandfather), got her a job and moved her to Brighton, in Sussex, England. This was a very interesting office, it was a place where people brought their ideas and their inventions and they got patents to protect their inventions. While my mother was working there she was approached by what we call MI5, British Security and she signed the official secrets act and was based in that office. In actual fact she worked from home doing documents for what was then MI5. She was a very lonely woman, in the sense that my biological father had left the family when I was about one year old. She never remarried, she didn’t have any boyfriends, and I think because of the sort of work she was doing she really felt that she could not involve herself in anybody or anything because of the nature of the work.

So she worked for MI5 although, she was told that really she was working for America, for the National Security Agency of America. But because she was a British subject she was managed in the country by MI5. Now my grandfather, (that was her dad), had worked for the foreign intelligence service of Great Britain which is called MI6; but apparently he was working for the CIA. So it was interesting that my mother was working for the domestic security service of Britain and my grandfather was working for the foreign group.

My grandfather was a very, very influential man. He had been a Freemason. He was awarded some very high honors, some medals: the Order of the British Empire, he was made a Commander of the British Empire, he was offered a knighthood, to make him Sir James Marsland – he declined that, he said he would not have that. He went on to be Britain's representative to the United Nations and he was there for two or three years, so he was a very, very influential person.

Although my mother and her father, my grandfather were not very close, they used to argue over how I should be brought up. My mother had her ideas, her values - and my grandfather had his. My grandfather was a Satanist and wanted those values brought to me. My mother was not. They would often argue and fight over how I should go. My mother fortunately won the argument. So we had magic - but we were taught magic but not black magic or anything from a Satanic line. So it was not an ordinary upbringing, it was a very unusual, demanding upbringing and one that I have not found replicated anywhere else. So I hope that gives the listeners a bit of an idea about me.

VK: How did the Satanic ideas differ from the ideas of your mother, if you don’t mind sharing it?

SP: Well, my grandfather was a member of what we could loosely call the Illuminati. He was very much a person who made things happen and so he had an upbringing and a value base system within a magical line. My mother was magical but of different values. In other words, the Satanic group believe in sacrifice. The Satanic group believe in linking earth magic with constellations and the moon. It’s reasonably unpleasant magic, it’s reasonably unpleasant, although it has some uses. My mother was not into that. So I did not go down that line.

We have not talked about the alien intervention….but when I was asked to make a choice between who did I wish to associate with – the Draconis Reptilians or the Mantis (or Mantid) - I chose the Mantids. I think that took me even further away from a Satanic type of ritual and ceremony. Had I chosen the reptilians I think I would have been drawn into it. So I think that the life choices that I and my mother made steered me on a course away from the type of ritual and ceremony that usually revolves around blood.

VK: So do you feel that those groups are still having some kind of [unintelligible 6:15 – intent of comment is - an influence] over the population of the world? I just want to ask you to see how much affect they re having on our world right now.

SP: Well, they’ve run the world from the moment that they were put into positions of power. The names of these people change but the practices that they have, haven't changed at all. So the answer is yes. It is used to control world leaders. For instance, world leaders will be summoned to meetings where they will partake in these type of rituals and of course they can then be blackmailed because they have taken part in them, but it is more than that – they join this elite club and they therefore are part of an organization. So it’s part of a secret society really. So yes, the vast majority of these people are still the same group that ruled in the days of ancient Egypt, in the days of Sumeria. It is the same families, the same blood line. Although as I say, the faces and the names change, the characters are the same.

VK: How do you feel that we can go out of this situation? It has been for so many years and we are – so many of us – are unaware of this situation. At least we are talking about it now This is good and some people with hear about it. But I think that a lot of people are so distracted away from reality and what is happening. How do you feel we can go out of this situation? What can we do, like perhaps me or somebody that feels real powerless in this situation? What would you recommend for us?

SP: Well in your case, you are doing everything you can, I guess. You are running an Internet radio show that gets the truth out to people, so you are doing your bit. All over the planet, people are doing their own bit; and we just have to have faith in human consciousness. The process that was started predominantly on the 21st December 2012. Which many people called an ascension – that is not the right word - but I often use that word myself because that is what the public understand. We have to use words that people are comfortable with.

There are big changes. Even in my country in the last four years. We have seen some incredible changes, as human consciousness begins to expand and sees through the curtain that has covered us for so long. You are right. It has been a very long time coming. We are now going through a very positive change and I think anybody who wants to help must find ways – join groups on the Internet, form little groups that can meet in your house, attempt to share information, invite guest speakers to come and talk to you. So do everything you can to educate yourself and decide what you think is the right way. So I always say to people, trust yourself. If you are in any doubt, then ask your higher self – who do you think is telling the truth and what you think you should do. So it is about forming groups, getting as much information, hearing as much as you can, reading as much as you can and then deciding on how you want to help.

VK: Do you feel that all of these intentions that we are sending forth, all of the connections we make,like connecting with people like you, Maybe another interview connecting with someone elase - all of these, do you feel that it empowers us at an energetic level that maybe we don’t realize? Kind of giving us back into oneness a little bit, creating some channels of communications some way?

SP: Yes, you’re absolutely right. It’s all about consciousness. As human consciousness expands it pushes out those ideas and values that aren’t acceptable and it changes what the human condition actually thinks is right. Many, many times in our history, where we look back and we think, how could we possibly have accepted that? Why did we go along with that?

Those values are not acceptable now. That is because it has taken time for human consciousness to evolve and change; and to express what we think is right and what is wrong. So when we communicate and when we link together we are sharing, not just within the planet, but across the whole multi-verse. What happens here, has an effect elsewhere. So that is why it is really important that we get this right; because if we can have a positive action on this planet it will really do well right across. So there is a lot riding at stake, there is a lot on this and that is why I think both sides. Both those who beneficial to humanity and those who are not so beneficial are really playing for all they can. These next two years are quite tricky I think.

VK - You know, and I think that. I think that this year is a lot about putting information out there. My feeling is that perhaps next year or so there will be disclosure. It’s kind of the completion from 2012 – so that we can...perhaps it’s going to be challenging. I have many of my friends in Spain, they are frightened to think that extraterrestrial life exists, but we need to accept it. Right?

SP: Yes, I think so. The situation that I am aware of is that for a very long time a group of what I call “off worlders” have been giving ultimatums to the American government, saying that they must disclose and tell the truth. The Americans have been saying no, we won't and they have been stalling for time. Well, now they have been given a deadline that they must disclose in the next two years. If they don’t, somebody else will do it.

Now the point is, that if a government discloses, it controls the manner of that disclosure and it can manage the situation. It can manage the repercussions and the fallout from that. And that is the advantage of disclosing. But if somebody else discloses, then it is their choosing of time and space. Which means there will be no management of that situation. This is a threat that is being used against the Americans. So that if they won't be more truthful with the public, then it will be taken out of their hands.

Now at the moment, the Americans are calling this group's bluff, and saying, you would not dream of doing that, because you know it will cause a bit of trouble. So at the moment there is a big debate. There is a lot of dialogue going on, a lot of diplomacy. But my understanding is that this is a situation that will not be withdrawn. In other words – in two years time, if there is not disclosure officially from an earth government, then something will happen which will take that away from them, so we will see. I am looking at the situation with Russia – I know that Putin and the Russians - the Russians want to disclose and tell the truth. So there is a lot to play for in the next two years, it is exciting.

VK: Yes, it is. I think that also it makes it a little more safe to go out and express experiences that we have. Like for example in your situation or other peoples’ situations – before some people may get killed because of sharing their truth. But now I feel like you guys are really helping the government in making like a pavement so that they can truly share. So now people are a little more familiar with this idea, whereas before it would be a shock, a complete shock.

SP: Yeah, I think what has happened is tat many of us are trying to take the initiative away from Hollywood. The last twenty years or so, Hollywood and the big directors have attempted to sell an idea regarding aliens and UFOs; and have tried to follow a government line. This basically splits into two sorts. One is that aliens are bad and are going to come and blow the world up. The other group is that aliens are good and are here to help us. The negative governments wish to exploit that. It has a potential to create a fake alien invasion; just literally to have martial law, and to do everything that they want to do with that.

So it is better when individuals like myself come and tell their truth, because I have not got Hollywood behind me. I don't have anything like that. I am not meeting big producers of cinema companies. I am not meeting people who want me to put a certain message out. Obviously what I often say is different from what Hollywood or some of those type of people come out and say.

VK: Did you have any offers about sharing your story with Hollywood?

SP: No, I think because Hollywood isn’t about the truth. Hollywood is about a version of the truth that gives the American government its best result. So anything coming out of Hollywood is generally favorable to whatever the American administration wants. If they don't do that that, then they find that they get their license revoked or they have problems. So my story is too empowering. The message I have is empowering for humanity. Sadly there are a lot of people who don't want humanity to be empowered, they just want people to rely on the government – the government will tell you what to do and how to do it. Whereas really all people are very special and all people have the capability of making their own decisions. So it is a fundamental difference between me and many, not all, but many people in government.

VK: I think that in films, in television, many times the information is mixed up. Some things are true, so maybe this is truthful, but other things, it’s like this doesn’t fit so much. So [its] really confusing also

SP: Yes, well I don't know whether that is deliberate, trying to mix in truth and lies, or whether they are just so mixed up themselves; because they don't really know the truth. They have just been fed information and of course they have got to make a film. Instead of making a happy film they make horrible, scary, nasty films. The feeling is that unless the film is horrible people won't watch it. I just don't believe that.

I think that it is about time we had some nice new stories, it is about time we saw some rather - it may not be what the government wants but actually it is much nearer the truth – to see a world without oil and a world without shareholders. Why do we have to pay for the roof over our heads? You have to pay for everything on this planet and it seems very odd. It is the planet we are born onto and we have to pay for it as if we are like cattle in a market. And it seems very odd that we spend all our lives paying corporations for the privilege of being on this planet.

Somebody somewhere is getting richer and richer on the back of ordinary people who are just struggling. That message is getting across and I think ordinary people are getting heartily sick of the unfairness of the system. So yeah, I can see why Hollywood wouldn’t like me; because I am talking about completely rechanging the world we live in. That would not be any good to Hollywood, would it?

VK: Exactly. That’s why I left Hollywood. I was there. Laughs. So you metioned about the movies being negative, which I agree and do you feel that all the emotions that these movies are evoking in us are feeding somewhere in the fourth dimension?

SP: Not entirely, I think that it’s a mind program game. You see, if you go back to the fifties and sixties aliens were portrayed as bug eyed blobs and the more crazy they looked then the happier people were. But what we saw in the seventies, or even in Star Trek in the sixties, but predominately in the 70’s onwards - aliens were shown as more and more human like and this is very disquieting for people. Because something that they could laugh at with ten tentacles and twelve eyes suddenly had two eyes, 2 ears and a mouth and looked like them. That was very worrying - because in Christian religion people are taught there is only God and only people; and that people are the only intelligent thing and they are the most important thing on the planet and that is the end of the story.

So when Hollywood starts introducing aliens that look like people this actually runs against religion. It is very subtle, it’s a real conflict going on there. That is why last year, when the new pope gave his inaugural speech, he said he would baptize aliens. Well, what a move in the last ten years when the Pope, new incoming Pope says, “I would baptize an alien.” I think that is on Youtube. That shows you how the big organizations are moving because they know that disclosure is coming. They are trying to position themselves and their organizations into “Oh well we knew that. We knew there were aliens, everything is alright. I said I would baptize them so it is not a problem.”

They are all trying to get themselves in the position where they can deal with it. The people who are going to have the biggest problem are the media because the media have tried to make fools of people. They have tried to make it a joke, portray people as crazy. Now they have been doing as they have been told. So when this disclosure comes there are going to be some very, very confused people out there. They’re going to need some support. There are people who will really need some support. If you spend twenty years of your life writing clever, witty articles about people who see flying saucers and then you see one yourself - that is a problem. So it's not you and I and the listeners that are going to have a problem in the next two years. It is these people who have flatly refused to see the truth. They are the ones that are going to need the help because their world is going to change dramatically.

VK: We spoke about your biological or earth family, and I really want to honor your non- earth families. So would you share briefly about your non-earth family?

SP:Yeah, its - for people who are not very involved in the subject it is very hard for them to understand …

VK: She interrupts and it is extremely hard to hear her. At the end she says, “You can share anything.”

SP: I appreciate that. I was meaning that people outside of this circle, they struggle to understand because they only see the physical body. That is all they can understand. We all have souls, our souls are representative of our star families and in my case my soul has been somewhat altered. It doesn't hurt, so I have a portion of my soul which is from a reptilian, a portion which is from a mantid,or mantis and a portion which is human. It is remarkable how it all works together. But it means that I have a connection with three very different groups or races. Three very different value base systems, three things that look very different, but ultimately share a goal, which is humanity. Now that goal may be different but they all have an interest in humanity.

So my connection is very strongly with the Mantis, from one of spirituality, from one of learning and friendship. With the Draconis Reptilian it is one of culture, one of history, one of pride, of ceremony. With the humans it is one of learning about connecttion to earth, understanding what love and beauty are and valuing what the human can give and the potentiality of a human once it is released from the chains that it is now, so my star families are very different, not always in agreement and it has been quite a bumpy ride in some ways. As a child, being visited by these different creatures, and when you are a young child you do not always understand the complexities you don’t always understand what is going on, and sometimes you just live from day to day. It is only when you get older that you can begin to put the pieces together and get the bigger picture.

VK: I feel that many people may be experiencing something similar in their lives, but without any awareness that the reason why is that they have different aspects in their family.

SP: Yes, I would say that in my own estimation that 75% of the population have one soul – so you are either Pleiadean or you are earth human or you are Lyran, whatever it might be - or reptilian. There are other elements. It is reasonably common to have two parts to your soul – quite interesting when people have a reptilian energy overlay and but a human soul. It is less common to have three parts as I have but I am probably not the only person to have that, although it is unusual.

VK: AT this moment, which civilizations do you feel are in interaction with earth? Which ones are for the good, and which ones are not so good?

SP: Right. There are a number of groups - but at the moment the major group first of all, that has always been on the planet (since about 220,000 years ago in a controlling element), would be what we would call the Draconis Reptilians. So they are here, in the earth in a fourth dimensional state, although they can move into the three dimensional state. We have more humanoid creatures advising Russia at the moment. Researchers refer to these as Nordics. So it is these tall, whitish humanoid looking humans, definitely humans - who are advising on the other side to Russia. So you have two very different governments now with two very different sorts of advice. You have Mossad in Israel, receiving information from a completely different star group. You have the Chinese, who are playing a double game. They certainly have connections with both the Reptilians and the Nordics, although they are moving more towards the Nordic line. You have Europe, which basically just does what America tells it.

So it really boils down to three major groups. There are others who are active but they are specialists, so they will have a specialism. So for instance in America there is a group we refer to as the Tall Whites. They are not really interested in world domination or helping humans so much as doing their own specialism, whatever that might be. The US Navy are in touch with a different form of Reptilians called Raptors. They are more out for themselves. The US Navy has always been more balanced. Of all the military services in the world, the US Navy has been the most “human consciousness”, perhaps the most supportive. So there are many different groups and sometimes in a month one group plays a bigger part than another. So there is a lot, a lot.

VK: When you refer to humans, What I understand is that a lot of them are not terrestrial humans right?

SP: No. I refer to an earth human is a soul that has chosen to incarnate in an earth human body again and again and again. So it is choosing to incarnate. The problem we have is that an earth human has an organic brain. We all have organic brains, what I call “monkey brains”. But they have been subject to many years of conditioning, to mind control and so when a soul incarnates into an earth human body repeatedly, it is doing so because it wants an easy life. It is not challenging anything, and therefore it is losing its connection with source, it is losing its connection and it is getting slowly, slowly made asleep.

Now a higher earth human in my book, is a human soul that has incarnated here from another dimension specifically for a task. Either to work through karma from past lives or to actually do some good for the planet or the humans on the planet. So 75% of the souls on this planet are earth human. The rest are non-earth human, whatever that mix may be.

VK: You mentioned about Draconis Reptilian being on the fourth dimension, and that is the part that I was referring before in regard to movies and television always having us in fear. Is this maybe like a legend about these energies [unintelligible 30:50] feeling so well, or what do you think, that they are empowering them in some way?

SP: No, no. I see what you are saying. No. If you go back to the days of ancient Rome where people would be put into an arena and they would kill each other. That is why they put thousands and thousands of seats around the arena, because all that death - all the people experiencing that death - then entities would hang over the arena and they would basically, for want of a better word, feed off that energy.

Nowadays it is a bit more subtle. You have Olympic games, you have TV shows, where millions of people watch a TV show and they get very excited and they buy into the TV show and those emotions can be used. So TV has taken the place of the arena in physicality. So this is what they connect with. No, the point about scaring people, (like Independence Day, the film Independence Day or something like that) is so that it gives an option to elite governments in America to attempt to pretend that there is an alien attack on earth.

Because if you as a child saw a film where flying saucers attacked London or New York or Rome and then you grew up as an adult and then it seemed to be playing out in front of you, as a human, or as a human creature, you automatically subconsciously go back in your head to say, what information have I on this? Oh yes, I saw a film twenty years ago about this. So you begin to create a reality - and instead of questioning what you are seeing, you say, ah - I saw it on television so this must be true. So all these films in the cinema are designed to give an option to the Illuminati if they wish to launch a pretend attack on earth and it would make it easier to sell that to the public. So that’s what that is.

VK: [33:05 unintelligible] I feel that your information about how you changed from the past, into now being television, the media that is making us be in fear. Well I threw out my television over 10 years ago. I know a lot of people, for example with soccer games, they get completely crazy with all the passion. If we would just realize that we are always being outside of our awareness – or what is happening inside us. So thank you for sharing that.

SP: It’s a pleasure.

VK: I know that we have an hour, I’m not sure if that’s an hour from when we started trying to connect? [Simon interjects something about going longer] Because in the recording we now have 34 minutes.

SP: OK We can go on for another half an hour, that’s OK.

VK: OK, thank you so much, because you have so much amazing information. This information, it has been received by you because of your non-earth family or you have figured out some of this information, how it has been?

SP: It comes through two ways. It comes from security sources, and it comes from off world communication. Generally speaking, when one source backs up another – so one side tells me something and another side tells me the same thing, then I am happy to go public with that; because then I have got two independent sources telling me the same thing.

VK: Wow, OK. So I know that many of us have experiences and then sometimes they are erased. For some reason. Is this because we are not used to them so we discard them? Is this because something external is erasing them? Is this because we don’t communicate with one another? Because I remember that once I saw a celestial object and I discarded it but somebody in front of me told me, “Did you see that?” Instantly I remembered it and I noticed it. But if she didn’t tell me I wouldn’t believe it. So I was wondering if you have any insight about this?

SP: OK. When somebody sees a real alien, it depends why they’ve seen them. If they have seen them for a reason, then either the alien will ensure they remember that because it is part of their learning process or their mind will be wiped from that. But often, if it is very traumatic, and the person is frightened by what they have seen then they will blank that out themselves. In other words, you often hear about people in car crashes – auto crashes and they wake up in hospital in the morning and they cannot remember what happened. That is because it was so scary that the human brain has just pushed it away to the back of the head and doesn’tt want to remember it.

So for children, often that is the case – that something scary happens and they do not want to remember it. But out of every twelve cases, I would say [in] nine of those cases where the alien does not want the human to remember what has happened; because it puts that child in a very difficult position - because it goes talking to its parents and draws attention to it. Now if an alien is going to visit a child regularly the last thing it wants is to alert the parents to that because the parents start watching the child very carefully. Or it may mean the child goes to hospital and the doctors get involved and the doctors label that child as crazy, it needs drugs, when that is not the case at all. So often an alien will blank somebody's mind to protect them from the fact that on earth we are not understanding of the situation and we would react in a way that would be detrimental to the child.

VK: Is there something that we can do to remember more?

SP: Well, it depends why it has been hidden from you. The best thing that you can do is say to yourself – this is my memory, this happened to me. I have the right to know what happened to me. Although it is very difficult, when people are having an interaction with an alien, if they can just only say, I want to remember this. I have a right to remember this. Then under universal law, they will be actually be allowed to remember some part of that; but most people don't remember to speak like that because they are too shocked, or they are thinking of other things. But you have the right to say, I wish to remember some part of this.

VK:Wonderful. That’s good to know. From what I understand, your earth mother had some information or knowledge about Roswell?

SP: Oh, alright, OK. You are the first person to pick that up! What happened was ….I should explain that I said my mother was a good typist and she had very good spelling. Under Operation Paperclip, German scientists from World War II, let’s be specific about this – Nazi scientists – from WWII - had been moved to American, predominantly America. But a lot of them refused to go and this is not widely known. A lot did not want to go and stayed in Germany. Now technically they were war criminals and should have been put on trial and sent to prison or executed. But they were very valuable because they were scientists. So what happened was that MI5 took responsibility for the scientists in the British quarter of Berlin.

German was divided up. Berlin was divided up between France, Britain, America and Russia and Britain's MI5 looked after these people. Their nationality was removed so in actual fact the German Government – the democratic German government couldn’nt prosecute them, because they were no longer German, very clever move. So they were actually managed by Britain, so they were British subjects. Well, they weren’t really, but that was the rules. So they could not be tried in a court and they could not go to prison. So they just stayed working for MI5 and living in Germany. So this group were a fall-back, a reserve, when the American scientists were overworked.

Some of the questions or tasks were given to this German group to work on and the documents they produced would come to my mother. These documents were in German and they were anything from about five pages thick, quite small, to maybe twenty five pages thick. They did have the German eagle on the front. There was no Swastika because this was after the second world war. They used to have the words Secret, Top Secret, Very Top Secret or Extremely Top Secret stamped on the front. Basically a man would come who knew my mother and translate the German into English and he would speak onto a tape. Then mother would play the tape and the guy would speak one phrase in German and then translate to English. Then my mother would type on a German typewriter, interestingly enough, into English. At the end of it she had the original document which was in German, and she had a copy in English. So this was for America, because the Americans didn’t speak German really. So that’s what happened.

She did that from about 1965/66 to 1979. She would regularly receive these documents, type them up and hand them across. So she was very knowledgeable because of what she was reading. My mother worked Monday to Saturday, depending on how busy she was – she might work Sundays. Now Monday to Friday I used to go to school but on Saturday I used to read the documents. My mother would go into the kitchen to do her food and she would leave her typed stuff there. I would then read through. So for something like about three, four, five years every weekend, if I was about, I would be reading what she was typing. And it seems odd that she would leave the documents out – I almost think she deliberately left them out for me to read. It seems very odd because at night time she locked everything away. She had a secure place to lock everything away, but she left them out for me to read, I think.

So she knew an awful lot and she was very uncomfortable because she realized how much of the truth was being kept from the people. The more she did, the more uncomfortable she got. Difficult for her, very difficult for her. She knew, so when I had alien experiences and I used to tell her she always used to say to me, pens and paper, draw with crayons, draw what you saw. I will take them to my friends at work and show them, and that is what we used to do.

VK: That’s awesome. How wonderful. Thank you for sharing that.

SP: Yeah, it’s not a normal life, not a normal life. I understand that now. But when you’re a kid you don't know any different. You think, oh well, this is the way it is. It is only when you get other families, you go through school and you realize, no my life is somewhat different.

VK:Would you share about the different humans in the different dimensions?

SP: Well, yes. Fifth dimension, the Pleiadeans, everyone wants to be a Pleiadean. You know, it’s rather interesting because so much stuff is written on the Internet by people who really don’t know. They just don’t know. They are reading stuff and they are just re-typing it. Pleiadeans are good people but they are incredibly war-like. They had to be, because they were attacked by the reptilians and they are the only human race that responded effectively. So the Pleiadeans gave as good as they got. An incredibly strong race, both physically and mentally, but the idea that Pleiadeans are all daisies, buttercups and flowers and all dance around holding hands is just nonsense. They had to fight a war of survival. So the Pleiadeans come from the fifth dimension.

Then we have those who come from just the early part (beg your pardon), the late part of the fourth dimension – these are from Sirus, or Sirius depending on your pronunciation, the dog star. A very interesting group who have interacted for a very long time. Then we have the feline specie, which is quite exciting. So many different groups, both humanoid and non- humanoid. But the fourth dimension holds a very heavy energy. There are a number of groups who are trapped in the fourth dimension and haven’t got the spirituality to evolve out of it yet. The reptiles are in there and some of the greys are in there as well. It is a bit of a trough, a bit of a trap, whereas you have got your Pleiadeans and your Lyrans who are in the fifth and sixth dimension.

VK: Um...when we are able go through this disclosure and this opening and this awakening as a collective...do you think those civilizations in the fourth dimension will also be able to rise above, to higher dimensions?

SP: There is a theory about ascension without work without effort. The universe will not allow that. The only group that is going to go up, or groups that will go up are those that have good intent. Because the universe will not allow anything that is very heavy to move up the ladder. So when the human group consciousness moves up the next ladder, anything with it could only go with it if it also shared that same value base system.

So as it stands, the reptilian race which would like to get out of the position they’re in, won’t be able to because they have not made that conscious decision to change their lifestyle- to change their value base system. If they were to change their value base system then yes, they could benefit from the massive explosion of energy that will happen when human consciousness expands and we are reunited with our DNA.

VK: So you mentioned a ladder in this process of going up the levels of the different dimensions, is this related to Kabbala?

SP: Yes, it can be. The point I suppose I want to make is that humans are not going straight to the fifth dimension. That is a new age point that says we go straight to the fifth. Logic says no, because we have to learn lessons and there is a fourth dimension for a reason. We go through different dimensions because we have to learn our lessons in that classroom. Once we have learned the lesson and we have succeeded then we go to the next classroom.

It is very special [pleading ? 47:28] to suggest that we would miss out a classroom. The point is that the elite within the new age are very well aware that those that manipulate us are in the fourth dimension. Therefore this rumor was spread that we were going to miss out the fourth dimension and just go straight to the fifth. No, we have to face the people who have held us down. That is not just for our learning but for their learning. So we will become aware of the fourth dimension fairly soon. And as we begin to perceive the fourth dimension we will begin to perceive how we are being manipulated and who is doing the manipulation. Then we will have to decide as a human race how we deal with that. That is part of the test of the fourth dimension.

VK: The way that I experience it is that any time that I do shamanic journeying or meditation, I start exploring the world or the abilities beyond my five physical senses. It is mostly through my heart without boundaries and I think that that gives me an understanding of the fourth dimension. Would that be accurate?

SP: Yeah, everyone is different. You are a very spiritual person so you experience that way. I’m not very good at meditation, so I don't quite see it like that. For me the best example I can give – I will be walking down some stairs and as I am looking down, one of the stairs disappears. I know it is there in the third dimension but it goes. Physically I don’t see it. What I see is a great drop and I actually jump, although in reality it is there. I am actually jumping that space because to me, I have glimpsed into another dimension, and I have seen that it does not exist.

Another example would be where I am walking to go out of a room and I reach my hand out to turn the door handle or knob to open the door and I realize that I have put my hand out three metres away from the door... because suddenly my whole depth of perception has changed. I thought the door handle was there but in reality it is three meters away, so for me the fourth dimension breaks in, or I break out of the third dimension – the two become mixed.

Now it is quite dangerous because I feel certain that a number of people have lost their lives when driving a motor car. They are looking at the road ahead and in the third dimension the road turns to the right but they suddenly glimpse another dimension and the road is going on. So instead of turning the wheel into the third dimension they just keep it straight. There have a been a lot of accidents on corners and bends. Of course the system says, oh well, they were driving too fast on a bend. I am sure in many cases that is right. But there are also cases I think where people are beginning to perceive another dimension. So it is something that people will have to be aware of.

And another thing is lift doors. A number of people are telling me now that they are getting caught in the lift doors because they are not judging the movement correctly and this is how it will occur. What you are doing is, you are traveling. You are physically leaving the third dimension and you are traveling into another dimension. So you are doing it energetically, because you are capable of doing that. I don't think I am capable of doing that. So for me it occurs that way. And everyone is different. As long as people are experiencing it then they are evolving.

VK: And for somebody that is just not experiencing anything like that and would like to start doing any exercise, or doing something…. any recommendations you would have for them?

SP: Yes. If they are not experiencing it yet it is because they are not ready. Now that is not a cop out. What they’ve got to do... a lot of people read and read and read. They go on the Internet and they read up on the names of everything. They know this and they know that but what they should be doing is looking in here [inside]. Because the answer is not out here..the answer is in here. Yes, you can fill your mind full of all these interesting facts, but this is where you have to develop. So it is about introspection. It’s about looking at yourself, looking at your values, trying to do some meditation, trying to understand who you are in the world….not learning about the presidents of the United States or this, that and the other... but who are you, really? Why are you here and understanding what your journey has been and trying to understand how you are affected by your upbringing … by the matrix of the world and how we are products of our response to learned stimuli.

So basically that is why these people need to change their tack – not read everything on the Internet, but set aside time regularly where they can just be quiet, on their own and communicate with themselves. We live in a technological world where we are being told the answer is technology – don't worry, you will be OK, technology will sort it out for you. That means people are spending hours and hours on the Internet reading as many conspiracy theories (as the government calls it) as they can when they should be spending time looking at themselves. So that is my humble advice.

VK: Beautiful advice. I agree. You mentioned the matrix. I wanted to know if you feel that when we raise our frequency and reach the fourth dimension or other dimensions...these will be outside the matrix? Or there will be a different matrix? Is the matrix created by the Illuminati, or

SP: Very good question. The “net”, it’s the “net”. The net was was designed to control humans in a third dimensional setting. However, it also catches beings from other dimensions. But as we move into the fourth dimension time and space completely alters. The concept that we have of time and space just will not work in a fourth dimensional setting. It means that we will begin to see things that we have never seen before. I mean by see, I mean understand and work out and have answers for things that we thought we would never have answers for. So we will begin to realize that we are trapped in a prison planet with an energy net over us which continually recycles the souls back into the planet.

But once we move into the fourth dimension we will see that clearly. We will see who is operating it, why it is being operated and then we will then be in a position to work out what we are going to do about it. Because at the moment we are rather like a fly or a bee or a butterfly(whatever you want) that is in a room and it is flying around and it is quite happy because it’s flying around. Then it suddenly comes up to a wall and it can't get through and it thinks, oh, I can't get out that way, never mind I can fly over here. So it flies over to the other wall, oh I can't get out, doesn't matter, I can fly over here. It is like your fish in a fish tank going round and round. But when your consciousness expands you begin to say, why is this wall here? What is beyond this wall? Who put this wall here? Why can't I go through the wall? And the more you evolve, the more you begin to question, the more you begin to work out how you can get through that wall.

So for negative forces, they want humans to be quiet, not thinking, to do what they are told, and to maintain the status quo. So anybody who wants humans to be a bit noisy, a bit questioning and want to learn and raise their vibration and spirituality, that is dangerous, for the system. Because you and I and others are saying to people – this is not the reality and that is very dangerous talk.

VK: Wow. Sometimes if I try to speak, if I speak to my family about anything like this...they are like, but we are so happy, you know we have everything, we have this, we are enjoying this. It’s like you are trying to break their dream or something and they will resist it and [unintelligible 57:00] you as much as possible.. So that’s the part that is so overwhelming. We are aware of these things but the people who is [are] not are going to fight for their dream. Is this perhaps that they are afraid of going beyond that … that …

SP: Yes. I always say to people that when your soul is active with your organic body and yours is. And you know when you are active. Because when you meet somebody in the street or in a shop and they cannot hold eye contact with you, your soul is active. The reason is, that when you look into somebody's eyes, if their soul is connected to their organic body you get a glimpse of who they are. That is looking into a fourth dimension or a fifth dimension. So an earth human person who isn’t active, who looks into the eyes of somebody who is from another planet sees something which scares them, and you will find people will quickly look away.

Time and time again, people who are active have learned not to look at people anyway. You learn not to stare at people but to just give them a quick glance, because it makes them uncomfortable. This is fear. I quite like Walt Disney's Beauty and the Beast cartoon, because one of the lines of the songs there is, “we are scared by what we don’t understand” or “We fear what we don't understand” and that is very much the way it is with the earth human race. They don't understand it. They are frightened of it.

So if you have a life, and you have enough money and you have enough prestige and you have a nice motor car and people are polite to you because you are successful, and you like all that; why would you want to go into something that could make people equal? Because what we are preaching is equality and that isn’t the system that we have. We have a system of hierarchy. I am better than you because I earn more money than you. I am better than you because I have got a professional job. You just take the trash out, you are nothing. I am this and I am that. We are judged by how we dress, how big our house is, how big our motor car is. That’s how humanity... that’s not natural for goodness sake. That is how humans have been programmed to value life and this is totally wrong.

Why does a bank guy, a guy working in a bank, making money for his company, why does he get paid more than someone working in a hospital? It is because the system says, “Life is not important. Making money is important.” So the system is sending these very nasty signals out – which is, life and death is cheap but making lots of money is really important. I often give a talk where, in Britain we have a television program and it is about antiques. People from all over the country can bring their valuables and an expert will look at it and tell them the history of it. It is a television program and it is genuine. You see them, they’ll bring their paintings and the person says well this was painted in 1750 by a famous artist. You look at the people standing there. They are not at all interested. They are waiting for that magic point – how much is it worth? So they stand there nodding, yes, yes, get on with it, how much is it worth? And then the man says to them, do you know how much it is worth? They will either have an idea or they won't.

Now I saw something really sad. A person had a doll collection, very old dolls, very valuable and these dolls were brought out and there were about twelve of them. Some of them, the cheaper ones, were worth £150.

Anyway, he gets to the last one and the man has saved the last one. He says, “Do you know how much this doll is worth? The person genuinely didn’t know. The man said it is worth between £3000 and £6000. Now the shocking thing was, that an audience had gathered around to listen to this and when this man said this doll is worth between 3000 and 6000 (pounds) they all broke into spontaneous applause. Why? Why are they clapping a dead object which was made by a person that never lived, that has an arbitrary value of £3000 or £6000?

Why don't they go and clap and cheer a doctor who saves somebody's life? Or a nurse in a hospital, or a school teacher that spends extra time making sure that children understand what they are being taught? Why don't they go and clap those people? Why don't they go and help at an orphanage, or at a rescue shelter? Why must they stand around and clap an object which is no use to anybody but has been given an arbitrary value of £3000 or £6000? That is because they have been conditioned and controlled to value and respect money – money and power. And until that is changed, until that is broken, those humans will never escape the trap. That is an example of just how deep rooted this business is.

VK:Well,yeah, it’s amazing for sure, that we do not value what is most important which is life itself and one another so...Well, I trust that thanks to people like you, interviews and putting information out there...you know it’s repetition, repetition, repetition….the same way we got hypnotized this far. We can go back and realize our true beginning and the value of each personal life. So Simon …

SP- Thank you. It’s been lovely to be on your show. You are a really good person. I’ll tell you something about yourself. You are uncorruptible. That’s very valuable. To be in a position where you have such strength, that you can’t be pushed off your course. That’s why you do what you do because you won’t change. You will only do what is right for the people. So I’m very honored to be on your show. I’m very honored to know you. You’re a lovely person. Keep on doing what you’re doing. Don’t take a rest. What the American’s say...put your foot on the gas pedal and just keep it there.

VK: Thank you very much Simon, Thank you.

SP: God Bless. (cross talk) Bye bye.

Transcribed by NHA June 21, 2016

Proofread and Partially Transcribed by Carolyn Hess Feb. 22, 2019

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