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ET encounters with an elected Labor Councillor

with Paul Obertelli and David Parry (thatalks.com/edition36)

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ET encounters with an Elected Labor Councillor with Paul Obertelli and David Parry, THA Talks, August 3rd, 2014 Simon Parkes is an elected local Councillor for the Town he lives in and he claims to have had alien contact / experiences for all of his life, and that these experiences are still on going. While still very much active as a Councillor for the labor party Simon openly speaks of his experiences in the media and at various conferences around the country. As well as his personal alien experiences Simon also reveals how he grew up in a "somewhat unusual family", his mother working for MI5 typing out documents that related to crashed ufo craft, which she did from around 1966 to 1979, and his Grandfather working for MI6 spending much of his time with operatives of the CIA. Since going public Simon also states that he has had many interesting "interactions" with the arms of state. He asserts he does not regret going public, and feels it was something that had to be done. We talk with Simon about his experiences his family and what we can expect for the future.

Paul Obertelli: Hello Simon, welcome to the show.

SP: Hello, it's lovely to be asked, thank you.

PO: We appreciate you coming on. It must be a busy life with all the politics and so on that you are involved in and what not. Basically, its an hour long show - You have been talking about a lot of fascinating stuff for quite a while now regarding Ets, about British Intelligence and so on. On the first shows we tend to try and cover as much ground as we can and then see if we can get you back on to cover more ground...cause as I say, there is so much to go over. Can we start off maybe just talking about these beings that you claim to have been in touch with, who they are, where they have come from and what they want? If we can start off from there maybe.

SP: Right, that's absolutely fine. I didn't get in sort of touch with them, they got in touch with me, from a very young age. I think researchers tend to have quite sort of boxed names for these creatures and the general public tend to say “reptilians” as if that covers all groups. The particular reptilian group that I am familiar with are called Draconis Reptilian. I am aware of two other groups of reptilians but I am sure there are many others. In terms of what the British call the Mantid, the Americans refer to them as Mantis – that's another group, or a part of a group that I have experience with. I very rarely see the greys - you know - your typical Hollywood style grey, very rarely see those.

I am 54 years of age, and as long as I can remember these creatures have visited me and it is not just at night time. It can be at any time of the day and it does not matter if I am with people. Other people have seen them as well, which is very shocking for them. They find it very hard to come to terms with. So basically, it is a range of creatures from the fourth dimension. A lot of people refer to them as ETs.

There is a guy called Charles Hall who, unfortunately I have not had a chance to meet. He has come to Britain on two occasions - and he refers to the Tall Whites. These are your absolute typical ETs because they take between fifteen and twenty years to travel here. So that is an extra terrestrial. The sort of creatures that I am referring to open portals, come through portals and so they are not actually traveling sort of typical science fiction style in a spaceship. So there are many types of visitors. There are other creatures which you could call elementals such as the Jinn or the demonic entities. They are inter-dimensional creatures, so I have quite a range of visitors.

PO: Right, well it sounds it. So what were the ones you would say you had the most dealings with?

SP: The creatures that I have had the most interaction with would be the Mantis. In 1971 when I was around about 12 years old, I made what researchers refer to as a soul agreement. To me it was just a deal. I just made “the deal”, where I accepted an offer that they made. It was going to be that or the reptilians - and frankly I am never at my ease with the Draconis Reptilians. Therefore I chose the lesser of the two evils which was the Mantids. So it will be the Mantids that will generally come and collect me.

PO: OK, So these guys they’re not getting on together, the Mantis and the Reptilians?

SP: If you can look at it from a 3D perspective - if oil was discovered off some country's coast and then I find that the Americans supplied the boats to go and get the oil, the British might supply the drilling bits, the Germans the cameras, so a range of countries would come together to exploit something. You find with the human race that a range of alien creatures have come together to interact with humans, each particular alien race is looking for a particular outcome from its interactions, although they will all share the main group.

The mantis have a very interesting role. If you can think of a soccer game – there’s a referee, and the Mantis creature is looked on by a number of other fourth dimensional entities as a referee. So the Mantis will actually go in and defuse difficult situations that are occurring in other groups or other universes. And so I wouldn’tt say they don't get on, I would say that each individual group has its own agenda.

PO: OK, so these beings that you are in contact with, are they 3D physical? Could you give them a high five, or are they astral?

SP: When any creature comes from the fourth or other dimension there is a period of time where they are non-substantial. They will solidify into very real physical beings. However they can stay sort of inter -phased between the third and the fourth dimension in which case you would see an outline, sometimes you would see bright colors, occasionally you would see them as sort of smoke, although that might be a Jinn.

It depends if they are intending to spend a period of time. If they are going to interact with you then generally they will come into the physical form - unless they are intending to take you out of your body – an astral or an etheric take; in which case they don’t need to come into the physical form. They will arrive in an energetic form, take you in an energetic form and then off you go.

So it is whatever their agenda is at the time - whatever amount of time they have. Because they are always attempting to evade the earth government, sometimes attempting to evade other alien races. So it's like project management. If you can imagine a group of humans building a bridge across a river - well this is many times more complex. You are going to come to another planet. You are going to interact with the creatures on that planet. You do not want to be detected. You do not want to be overheard. You have to get in, do what you need to do and get out. And these guys have been doing this for thousands of years. As human technology increases so their task gets harder and harder. There will come a point when they will always be detected. We have not reached that point just yet, but we are not far off it.

PO: So what is it they want, why are they here?

SP: Which group do you refer to?

PO: Well, let’s say the guys that you’re - the Mantis.

SP: The Mantis, they will always interact with humans on an individual level. The Reptilians tend to interact on a group level, so it will be the Reptilians that are working with the National Security Agency of America or the CIA. Every group has something different. With the Mantis group it is more about blood lines. So the Illuminati on earth are following a number of humans because of their blood lines. If the Reptilians are interested in that particular blood line – let's say a blood line goes back to ancient Sumeria or back to the Jewish time, they will follow that.

So Mantis are particularly interested in the development of living creatures who have a soul link. It goes right back into history, and a physical blood line link that goes back into history and sometimes what will happen is the mantis will come in and they will say, hands off this particular individual, we are managing this particular individual, and then they will have a sort of turf war with others to decide which of that family is going to be run by which particular group.

So in my case that didn’t happen. I was actually given the choice – who did I want to associate with most? Who, basically did I want to have guarding me, and in 1971 I chose the Mantis group. I don't regret that, because the alternative perhaps would not have been so good.

PO: Right. So basically there's the good guys and the bad guys and you are with bascially what you believe are the good guys?

SP: You know what, I don't think any of them are good, in the human terminology. I think it is very hard for earth humans to try and put their values, what is good, what is evil, on a completely different specie. Until humans, beg your pardon, earth humans I mean. Until earth humans fully understand what makes these creatures tick, it is very hard to know. I think it is about their agenda – if you can understand or have a good handle on what a particular faction of a grouping agenda is; if that is fairly benign to yourself as an individual and benign to the earth, then I think that is something to develop and go with. If you know clearly that it is a negative agenda, you want to keep well away from it. So with the Mantids the agenda from my perspective, was not too bad at all.

PO: Right. Are these beings the same things as people in the past associated with demons and stuff. Do you think it’s pretty much the same thing or something totally different?

SP: I think in those cases, that would have been Jinn. That would have been creatures that are inter - dimensional, that live between the third and the fourth dimension.

PO: Right

SP: I would think that many cases where people refer to demons, then they are actually encountering Jinn. These creatures - if you went back to the middle ages and a mantis creature or a reptilian creature walked into the market square – yes, I am sure everybody would throw their hands up and shriek and think it was a demon. But I think in history, if you look back certainly from the Renaissance period onwards, people's descriptions of demons are far more relevant to the bearing of the Jinn, than reptilian or anything else.

PO: I think it was in one of the Egyptian pyramids, it might have been a Mayan tomb somewhere – I think it was Egyptian, it actually had a depiction of a ritual that they had done that they actually raised this Reptilian type being. They even have date, at this date at this time, this such and such reptilian was raised and so on. I don’t know if you’ve heard about that before. Does that sort of strike you as one of the Reptilian beings?

SP: I think any culture that relies on sacrifice as its driving force, will ultimately have a Draconis Reptilian background. It will be their teaching and their learning. The Reptilians are totally driven by ritual and ceremony. If you look at Mayan Aztec religion - (remember these are not old, they are seventeenth, sixteenth, fifteenth century, so we are not talking thousands of years ago) these civilizations relied on slavery - as did the ancient Roman empire. But these ones relied on slavery and sacrifice. Now as soon as you bring sacrifice into it you are talking about Reptilians. A lot of these Mayan, Aztec pyramids, at one time were energy nodes, portals, where Reptilians could come through from the fourth dimension and stay for a period of time. So it does not surprise me in the slightest.

PO: OK. Well, moving the subject slightly - There are people out there, one person in particular running a group called The Disclosure Project, funded by Dr. Steven Greer. I’m sure you’ve heard about their work before in this field. What are your views on what they’re doing, and do you think it’s genuine or do you think maybe it’s a distraction? Does it cover the kind of stuff you’re experiencing?

SP: I haven't got any time for Dr Steven Greer. The reason for that – he raised a phenomenal amount of money from very, very honest, well meaning people and then he produced a film which really did not go anywhere and do anything. To me it was a tremendously wasted opportunity. So that is the first [reason] I say that. The second is that I know personally somebody who approached Dr Steven Greer with a very genuine offer to look into

PO: [17:06] OK folks we had a sort of technical issue there and we got cut off. Back over to you Simon.

SP: Thanks. It’s not unusual to have interference like this. It’s fairly common. Yes. A very good friend of mine made a very serious offer to Dr. Steven Greer regarding some knowledge of free energy and the first thing Dr Greer said to him was, well how much is in it for me? So my friend said it's not about how much money is in it for anybody, it is about the benefit to the earth and the benefit to the people of the earth - in which case Dr Greer was not at all interested. So I base my answer to your question on those two facts. No, I would have more time for David Icke than I would for Dr Steven Greer.

PO: That was one of my questions that I was going to ask you – the Reptilian beings that you speak of, are they the same kind of beings that David Icke talks about?

SP: David Icke is an absolutely amazing researcher. He does experience, but doesn’tt experience in the full range. I would probably agree with 90% of what David Icke says. I think it is very, very difficult to explain to people who have not seen these creatures, just how a Reptilian can take control of a human body, I think that has been very hard for a number of people who really like what David Icke says. Then as soon as he starts talking about the Reptilians he lost a lot of people, because the concept was just too much for them to understand. I think people are changing now. People are understanding that the governments are lying to them, and they are looking for alternatives. So I think the message is good and I would support what David Icke says.

PO: OK, Right. We’ve had a guest on the show called Ed Grimsley with his colleague Richard Lennie. They basically talk about and go on these sky hunts where they film UFOs with night vision scopes. They’ve claimed… they’re quite well know for getting some good footage of UFOs fighting in the sky actually attacking each other. What are your views on that? Is that tied in again to beings that you’re encountering?

SP: Well first off, you may well have human controlled spacecraft fighting alien spacecraft. You may be looking at one group of alien spacecraft fighting another group of alien spacecraft – it is not clear cut. Everyone is after their own piece of the action. So unless one can actually identify the alien craft or the type of craft, it is incredibly difficult to know who is piloting these vehicles and who is the bad guy and who is the good guy. But yes, there is a war going on. There is a war going on above the planet, there has been for quite some considerable time and people who are very dedicated, have the right equipment - can film these things.

The mainstream media could easily film it because they have millions of pounds, the best cameras in the world; but they won't film it because they have been told not to film that. It relies on these volunteers, these dedicated individuals who go out night after night, in sometimes the most cold and atrocious conditions, to try and bring evidence and proof to the people. So all power to them. They are doing a great job.

PO: OK well then, I’m going to turn to my colleague, David, for a moment to see – to get some of his views on all this. David, what are you making of all this?

David Perry: Well it’s very very interesting material isn’t it? Um, oh, I’m having more trouble than usual knowing where to begin with this one. Simon will be relieved to hear that I’m going to avoid the obvious gags, like whether they vote new Labour or conservative? Also I’m going to avoid the obvious comment, “Are you trying to seek higher office in the Labour Party?

I’m something of a die hard Jungian. When I hear about flying saucers, I tend to think of Jung’s book, what was it again, Flying Saucers, A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky, I seem to recall. Where he basically says, if we ignore our religious obligations, spiritual forces beyond any sort of human understanding can sometimes take monstrous and very forceful forms so that we give them their due, so that we take our rightful place in the continuum. So I mean, I am hearing about reptilians or dragons. I am hearing about Islamic Jinn. I wonder what you think about that Simon, are these masks for forces that none of us can ever really understand? Is it something of a total mystery that we are engaged in?

SP: I don't thing it is a total mystery. I think that there are so many thousands of people all over the earth in different countries who speak different languages who report very similar spacecraft, very similar creatures. You have either got one or two groups who are play acting, going to people and trying to impress them with a vision so that they go out and say I've seen this - I've seen that; or we genuinely do have a situation where the earth is being visited by a whole range of creatures and has been for many thousands of years. So I think it is about looking at the evidence - talking to people who are obviously not crack pots and people who have given some good, good descriptions of what they have seen. I am sure we could look at people like Jung and Freud – I wonder if Jung and Freud ever saw a flying saucer themselves?

DP - Well, that’s a very good point. Let’s take that sort of comment forward. Umm, I mean I’m coming out this year, I’ve actually seen a flying saucer. I had a wealth of paranormal experiences myself. So the organizers of [ Paracon? 23:48 ] UK are forcing me to come out this year. I’m looking forward to it, but it doesn’t really address the point. I mean John Mack, who was a very learned psychologist, and wrote, what was it? Abduction, Human Encounters with Aliens, (I can’t remember the titles of these books today) talks about masks and identification and spiritual forces, religious forces trying to raise our sense of consciousness.

I mean I’m not into the nuts and bolts things. There are a couple of guys with big machines who are a bit ahead of us. Big deal. I mean are any of these creatures doing us any good? If that’s what they are. Well, again, are they something else in disguise? I would find it very easy - bearing in mind the human sort of limited apparatus we’ve got intellectually as well – to judge these things. That we have just missed the point largely. That’s not to say that anyone is not experiencing these things. I believe they’re real as Dr. Mack did. You know, just because we believe they’re real doesn’t really answer the question. What do you think of that Simon?

SP: Well, first of all, I think Dr Mack was a wonderful human being and I think that he was very brave. When you are in a 3D profession such as medicine or science of any sort and you hold the label of doctor or professor, as soon as you then break ranks and give your views the whole of the system comes down to crush you. You know, it was tragic wasn’t it, he was struck down by supposedly a drunk driver while he crossed the road.

I think that in some cases Jinn will come to people as an angel. If someone is a very religious person and you want to get this person to be on side, then you will come and pretend to be an angel. You could be a devil, you could be a demon. I would say that I am not an abductee or a contactee – I am an experiencer. The reason why I am very, very particular about that is that on some of the experiences I have had an alien will literally enter the room, we won't go anywhere, it will just enter my mind and then it will give me an experience. Now I know from fact from talking to other genuine experiencers that these creatures have entered their mind and they perceive a completely different being from the being that entered their room. So by going into that person's mind, those creatures have the ability to make you think you’ve seen a tiger, or you’ve seen a beautiful woman, or you’ve seen Jesus, or something like that.

So we are not talking simply about someone who is knocking on the door and saying, I have come to sell you double glazing, do you want it, yes or no? We are actually talking about creatures with a very, very complex agenda who have incredible abilities in their mind enhanced by electronic devices to really give the human race the run around.

Your final point was, “Is it for good or ill?” I certainly am of the opinion that the majority of the reptilian races are not positive for earth – not all of them but the majority are not positive for earth. There are a number of fifth, sixth, seventh, eight dimension beings who now have sat on the fence for long enough and are now actually becoming involved to redress the balance of the playing field. In terms of the Mantis, The Mantis are playing their own game. So yeah, I would say that there are a number of alien beings in the fourth dimension who wish to keep earth and its human population status quo, just to keep it the way it is, whereas I and many others want this human race to evolve and to get on and do what it needs to do.

DP: Simon, don’t get me wrong, I think you’re a very, very brave man, I mean you’re someone in public life, coming out and saying all these things. I think it’s laudable on every level and that is extremely interesting. I’ll tell you where my source of concern is coming from. You said you made an agreement, a deal with these entities with these forces, with these powers [he coughs] Excuse me, I’m choking this afternoon as well. Perhaps we’re all under psychic attack. What a thought.

So I’m hearing about dragons. I’m hearing about demonic pacts. You know I’m hearing something very traditional, using modern clothes, wearing modern clothes. I am not hearing anything particularly strange or outrageous or futuristic. I hear the story lines of thousands of years being replayed in a modern form.

I got very unsettled when you talked about the deal that you made and I wonder if you could explain that a bit more and would you say that you are at least sympathetic to the idea that these story lines are very old and just in modern dress at the moment?

SP: Well, I am sorry that I unsettled you. I really wouldn’t want to unsettle anybody but sometimes the truth is unsettling. The deal that I made, and I will give it to you word for word, was this: “Would you like to be like us, to have knowledge and understanding, to see the future, to know the past, to have power and authority?” And I said, “Yes.” Then the creature, who had had his hand on my shoulder, went down, took my hand and said, then come with me. So that was the deal I made.

DP- That sounds to me like a very traditional bargain with some evil force. What do you think of that?

SP: Well, I am not dead, and I have not been hurt or tortured. No other people that I have been with have been hurt or tortured and I think that it is not an evil force. I think it’s a force that is used to exerting a lot of authority. It is a very proud race, the Mantid race. They have been around a very long time and I think that they offered me a deal to play a greater part in the time that is nearly on us. So no, I don't think evil. That is why I did not go with the Draconis Reptilian group, because then I would have been into Satanic ritual. I would have been into murder, all the other things that the Satanists do. So no, I am not down that road.

DP - Simon, it’s very very interesting and a lot of food for thought. So young man [referring to the host of the show, PO ] it’s time you got back in.

PO: Yep Yep, Interesting stuff, interesting stuff. I was just thinking regarding your position

with Labour and your colleagues there, are they pressuring you to knock this on the head and keep quiet about it?



SP: No, this is what really surprises the main media and it surprises quite a few people but you have to understand that the people in power know the truth. Those who don't know the truth are not in power. I have only ever had one phone call from head office. Let’s call them head office. One phone call. That phone call was, and I quote, “Next time you are going to go on prime time television and attack a senior Tory government minister for God's sake ,tell us beforehand so we can get the press boys ready.” That’s the only call I’ve had.

People in power know the truth. Really what changed the media, at the start the media was just like everybody else, quite doubtful of it, but what changed the media was when a member of MI5 invited me to tour a secret radar base last year. And as soon as the media heard that then they were absolutely into fits, because here is the guy who has come out publicly and said that his grandfather worked for MI6,said his mother worked for MI5. He sees aliens, yet he is being given a guided tour of one of the most secure and important sites, not just in Britain but in the world. This is the three phased array space radar at Fylingdales. And suddenly the media obviously thought well, this guy is obviously talking the truth - and that reflects - because when the new Pope made a statement a few weeks back that he would baptize aliens at half past six in the morning, who do they phone for a comment? Me.

So you have Radio 4 phoning me up, asking me to make a comment on the Pope. This is because the military have shown that they are quite interested in me. So my colleagues are incredibly supportive. I am the chair of the most influential committee on the town. I am chair of another committee. I did throw my hat into the ring to be mayor of the town and I came second. So this is a problem for the media, who are either controlled by vested interests or just frankly, have idiots on their staff; can’t understand how it is that somebody can say what I say and yet carry the confidence of other politicians. The fact of the matter is that what I am saying is the truth. If these people were to get off their backsides and actually go and do some research themselves they would find out that it was the truth; but the truth is very scary for some people.

PO: Yeah. Has anyone ever tried to silence you, so to speak?

SP: The only time I ever had something was when a breakaway group of Freemasons attempted to run me off the road and that is the only serious attempt that has ever been made.

PO: Alright, so you are in the “be careful of the Freemasons camp” then are you? 34:14

SP: What I would say is that the vast majority of Freemasons are fantastic, hard working, loyal, community minded people. I know many Freemasons who give their time up and their money up for no reward to do some wonderful things in the community. So no, I am not knocking the Freemasons. I am knocking probably the top five percent who are in incredible positions of power and basically have just lost the plot and they are out for what they can get.

PO: There’s one other issue I wanted to touch on. It is a quite sensitive subject at the moment, so if you didn’t want to say anything I would fully understand. It’s regarding the scandal at the moment within the government with this sex abuse scandal – with this dossier that was covered up. Do you feel any of what you’re talking about, alien wise and ritual wise, like the Reptilians and so on – Do you think they’re involved in that kind of scandal?

SP: We have not spoken about the Illuminati really. This is the angle that I would particularly go down. You have to understand that people like Jimmy Saville, incredibly highly placed within the top ranking echelons, are full Satanists. If you are a practicing Satanist, you will abuse children, it is part of the ritual, it is what you do if you believe in that. It is on record that Jimmy Saville chanted in Latin while he abused children.

Yes, absolutely, the problem is, that so many of these people are still in incredibly high positions of office that you won't get the truth out until there is such a groundswell of public opinion that demands truth. The only country that has done that in a peaceful way is Iceland. That was never reported properly; where Icelandic people actually walked into their parliament, physically manhandled their members of parliament and threw them out on the street. That has never really been reported. Of course it is not reported, because they don't want that happening in Britain or America. So that is true democracy. What we have at the moment is a group of people who are so used to abusing themselves with power, so used to never being challenged, never being asked a question, they have just done what they jolly well liked. They have joined several clubs, and one of those clubs is a Satanic club where people are tortured and abused. Yes, it runs through very high levels.

PO: Yeah, of course. The only thing that worries me with that as well is you do get witch hunts. You said that the majority of Freemasons that you know are decent people and such, but there are a lot of people out there that like to witch hunt if they see this is happening in a certain group. Then anyone who is involved in paganism or a religion they don't trust, there’s the risk of people being burned at the stake. They shouldn’t be, if you know what I mean.

SP: Yeah, I think first of all - Wicca or Paganism are not the issue. Anything that brings us closer to mother earth, to the way we used to be a few thousand years ago, that is to be applauded. The enemy is the man in the expensive suit, the expensive tie, the expensive motor car - who practices Satanic ritual and uses power to keep things in control. That is where the enemy is, not somebody who is humbly practicing some white or grey witchcraft.

PO: Hmm. Yeah, I hear you there. I hear you. Hmm, OK, so see what else I want ….. You’ve always said a lot of interesting stuff regarding your family you touched on earlier - regarding MI5, MI6 – We’re sort of edging closer towards the end, but I think we’ve got enough time to sort of see if we can cover a bit of that side of your information.

SP: OK , what bit would you be interested in?

PO: Well I mean …. You said your mother was involved – she was in in MI5 and that she was involved in covering up some of the UFO’s and ET information. Could you run us about by that?

SP: Yeah, Very briefly, we have [n’t?] got the time. [Unintelligible – MI5 38:51] That’s not really how we would call it. It’s the BSS, the British Security Service. She signed the official secrets act around about 1965/66. Her job was to (old fashioned typewriter in those days) type out documents that related to alien spacecraft that had either crashed or been brought down all over the globe and recovered by American special teams.

The documents were all in German, they came from West Germany. These were a group of German scientists from Operation Paperclip who didn’t want to go to America and escaped the Russians and wanted to stay in what became West Germany. My mother's job was to receive these documents in German. Her handler would turn up, and he would have translated them on a spool of tape into English. She types them out. Then she had to take them, by a special car that would collect her, to Brighton railway station, where she would meet a guy - pass code words - and then she would hand the documents across. She did this until 1979. Unfortunately what she was reading was just too much for her, she became an alcoholic. So she went to her handlers and said, I've had enough of this. I can't stand it, it's just too mind-boggling – you always promised me you would give me my old job back. And they did, she went back to her old job and then within two weeks of that, she was dead. And I know that they killed her. I know they felt they had to do it because the information in her mind was just too great. They saw my mother as a loose cannon and so they did what they had to do from their perspective.

You can imagine, I was an only child, I did not have a father, so at the age of 18, when this happened I just wanted to run away. I got a job in London which was fifty odd miles away from where I lived. I prepared to move away. Then a day or two before I was to move, an envelope got pushed through the letterbox with £2000 in used notes. And £2000 in 1979/80 was a hell of a lot of money. That was my blood money, that was the money they gave me for killing her.

But ever since then the security services have watched me. They play usually a listening role and they have been quite helpful sometimes. I have occasionally had some very nasty interviews and then somebody from the intelligence services tipped me off; or in fact with the Americans, has actually gone and contacted these people and told them to sling their hook. I don’t know what the American terminology for that is. So, that is why I got invited to the space radar station, it is why people in power do not come down on me like a ton of bricks, because they have been told to back off. And so it is an interesting life, I can assure you, it is a very unusual interesting life.

PO:Yeah, I bet, I bet. Ok as I said at the beginning, this show has so much to cover. It would be good to get you on just to focus on a certain subject. If you would come back on the show that would be great. It’s been very interesting.

SP: I’d be delighted.

PO: David, have you got anything you would like to throw in here as we get towards the end?

DP: Just one last question, I suppose It’s been very, very interesting Simon. Very Very interesting indeed. I’m focusing on the word experiencer. that’s curious. Um - did you ever read Carlos Castaneda. You know that great 70’s phenomenon? He was training as an anthropologist and as a Yaqui sorcerer at the same time. You remind me of something like a sorcerer's apprentice.

[cross talk] What do you think of that?

SP: That a very interesting point. To be truthful with you, I’ve never heard the name before. I haven’t heard the name before. The sorcerer's apprentice is an incredibly interesting comment that you have made. I, in my spare time, I assist people who have Jinn possession, people who have been tortured by Satanic forces or the Illuminati, who have multiple personalities; and the Rothschilds even sent me one of their employees to put right and I did not know it was the Rothschilds who had sent them. Had I known I would have charged them a fortune. You are talking magic. You have to use magic sometimes to undo some of the evil magic that has been done. My blood line goes back quite a way – that is an interesting subject, maybe one day you need to pop by and we will have a cup of tea together and we'll have a chat.

DP: [unintelligible 43:40] We’re running out of time. This enchanting man, he must come on again. I’ll leave the final bit to you my dear.

PO: There’s another guy. Have you heard of a guy named Alex Collier?

SP: I have seen a couple of his videos, I have never met him, but I am aware of him, yes.

PO: OK, do you give him the thumbs up or the thumbs down?

SP: I give him the thumbs up.

PO: So you think he’s [having] genuine experiences?

SP: Yes I do. I also know his life was threatened. That is why there is a huge gap between his 1980s videos and the more recent stuff. He was told not to talk about the Reptilians or the missing children, and if he did, he would be found dead. The difference between Alex Collier and myself is that Alex unfortunately, or fortunately interacted with fifth or sixth dimension beings who don’t get involved in the politics on earth. The beings I interact with have always interfered with the politics on earth and so if anybody tried to do anything too serious to me, then these creatures would very, very soon make their presence known. That is why Alex did not have higher protection and that is why it was only in later life he came back on again and you may know what happened.

He has got his electricity cut off, his gas cut off, he was penniless, they brought a charge against him, saying he was corrupt, and they destroyed him, absolutely destroyed him. I am not going to go down that road because there are agencies, individuals, whatever you want to call them who would not let that occur. So I need to go out there and make people aware, push the truth, because I am not going to end up on a railway line, I am not going to end up in some ditch. I am going to try and do what I can to try and raise the awareness.

PO: Well, I – I you know… When was the last time you had contact with them?

SP: Um - the last time I had contact and can remember would be about six weeks ago. I get a lot of missing time but when I am incredibly busy – I did a live Skype link yesterday to Nexus, Inc., an Australian conference, I've got another conference coming up I think on Friday – when I am very, very busy like that, never mind the political work, I tend to not have any capacity left in my mind to remember when I get interacted with. I will just have all this missing time, as the researchers call it. If I'm on a quiet run, say in January or February, then I will tend to have more ability to remember.

Sometimes when I have an interaction I will say to these creatures, I want to remember this, I want to remember what is happening; because I suppose for my own protection, they will often not allow me to remember certain things. There are many agencies on earth who do not have good will of the human population and they are always looking for new technologies or ideas or any plans. Look it, look it - We can’t go into it, we don't have the time’ but the situation in the Ukraine is not what it appears at all and stuff like that. You cannot have what I would call the enemy having access to very important information.

PO: So what do you think thi is all going to come to? Can you foresee a time in the near future where we are all going to be a bit more familiar with these beings, or are they going to leave, or how do you see this panning out?

SP: I think it is going to be in my lifetime. I have absolutely no doubt about that. 2016 is the last possible point for a portal opening. So, whatever you want to call them, the Illuminati – whatever - the negative creatures, have got until 2016 to play their trump card. So it will be played in 2015. They tried it on 21st December 2012 when they tried to activate the CERN hadron collider and if you have seen my presentation, you’ll see how the hadron collider failed to operate.

Next year will be the year of many things happening. I am expecting some form of financial crash, but not in the sense that we would understand, like a traditional financial crash. I am expecting something to take out the infrastructure of a major country and I think on the back of that certain things will happen. My only concern at the moment with the Ebola outbreak is that if that disease is spread to other countries you may find a mass immunization program on the cards. I would just say to people, be very careful because I am sure there will be nano technology in those injections. I do not want people to be RFID'd – chipped. So there is an awful lot being played out at the moment. They are running out of time, the bad guys, they are up against a wall. They have got to try and control the human population, Yeah, it is changing every day.

PO: OK. I am sure our listeners are very interested in what you have said and I’m sure there are some that have 101 questions they would like to throw at you and doubt what you’re saying - they’re all out there and stuff. I think a lot of our listeners would like you to come back on and cover some more ground on this, cause as you say there is certainly a lot here you have to talk about. It’s been great having you on the show. Wish you luck with your political side and with your out of the box side, shall we say. It would be nice to have more people in politics who are as open minded as you. I know that much. I think that’s what the world does need. Unless David’s got anything else he would like to throw at you last minute …

DP: No, I think that’s it for me. Simon we need a cup to tea or a glass of something a little stronger. I look forward to it on the cards, maybe before this year is out.

SP: My dear fellow, you’re very welcome.. What I would say, is if any of your listeners have some serious questions – I don’t care what they are, as long as they’re serious – why don’t they drop them into you and you can ask them [unintelligible 55:25]

PO: If there’s anything you would like us to ask Simon next time he’s on - send us an email at thatalks.com and we’ll get Simon back on – because we’re not actually doing live call ins just yet but we can certainly take your questions and ask Simon for you, so that’s no problem.

Simon, thank you very much.

SP: It’s been a pleasure.

PO: It’s been a pleasure and we look forward to the next time.

SP Take care, bye bye.

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Transcribed by NHA April 13, 2016

Proofread by CJH February 19, 2019

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