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Simon Parkes Interviewed by Jeff Rense

April 6, 2012

A Yorkshire councillor with bigger political aspirations claims he has had hundreds of encounters with aliens and even says he has a 9ft-tall green "mother". Councillor Simon Parkes, who was elected to Whitby Town Council in February as a Labour Party candidate, claims he has been visited by extra-terrestrial beings throughout his life. He says he has also been the subject of "horrific" alien operations, and had an implant put into his hand by the creatures. Councillor Parkes, who may stand for Scarborough Council in North Yorkshire, speaking in a YouTube video, said his first encounter was seeing a kite-shaped face when he was a foetus in the womb. The first direct encounter he recalls with an alien came when he was a six-month-old baby. "I was in the cot. Two green stick things came in. I was aware of some movement over my head. I thought, ’they’re not mummy’s hands, mummy’s hands are pink.’" He was then picked up by the creature, which was 9 ft tall, had huge eyes, two holes for a nose and was wearing a purple cloak. "I was looking straight into its face," he said. "It enters my mind through my eyes and it sends a message down my optic nerve into my brain. It says ’I’m your real mother, I’m your more important mother.’" Parkes then encountered aliens as a three-and-a-half year old, when 8 ft tall "doctors" came to see him and armed "human enforcement" officers appeared through his wardrobe. As an 11-year-old, he was taken on board a craft by his alien "mother", and made an agreement with the beings to gain knowledge about the past and future. The agreement allowed his soul to be transported into extra-terrestrials. He also says he has been given an insight into the origins of the human race, which he believes was genetically altered by an advanced other-worldly civilisation to "dumb down" the species. He said: "I’m only telling you what I’ve seen, they could be lying to me. The reason extra-terrestrials are interested in me is not because of my physical body, but because of what is inside me, my soul. These reptiles are guilty as hell. They have apologised several times to me. They have said they are sorry for what they have done to your people." He said that only last week, a mysterious black car rammed into his while he was returning from a meeting. "It was a horrendous crash.The black car just zoomed up and rammed me, it went straight into the side of my car. The driver walked straight up to me, holding Coca-Cola, and said ’I’m sorry, I had to do that.’ I’m lucky to be alive." A North Yorkshire Police spokesperson confirmed that a four-vehicle pile-up had occurred on the A64 near Tadcaster, North Yorks. The spokesperson said it was caused when a car braked suddenly and that minor injuries were caused.

Jeff Rense: Alright, Glad you’re along tonight. We’re going over to England this hour to talk to a gentleman who has quite a fascinating story, and has had an even more fascinating life, if even one half of what he says is 100% accurate. I don't know how young kids remember things so well, some of them remember everything, but to remember even half of something that is as extraordinary as what Simon Parkes has encountered, and lived through, is amazing! Simon, are you there?

Simon Parkes: Hi, it’s lovely to speak with you, to speak with all your listeners.

JR: Well, thank you, it’s very lovely of you to get up this early in the U.K. to be with us.

SP: Yes, that’s fine

JR: Very, very much appreciate that. Your story hit the news over here. I guess in the UK press too, about a week ago or so, but it's - it's an interesting story. How was it received over there, and how did it end up being in the papers?

SP - Yeah, you're right, it’s about a week ago, and it sort of started off with one local newspaper, and then the national press got hold of it, and then the radios. I think it was just the subject that so few people are confident in coming forward, and speaking about, that when somebody does, it grabs the headlines, and I think it made it around the world about three or four days ago.

JR: It certainly made it over to here, I was very interested to read it. Now, tell us about your actual life and what you are doing on the above, on the visible side of things.

SP: Okay, well I mean, I’m a local politician, over in Britain. I mean that's what I do, and I – the subject doesn’t actually come up very much y’know yourself when dealing with your electorate, you’re dealing with all the problems they have. I try and keep this side of it separate from that, never-the-less, being a politician, and coming forward, and making these statements, of course, it has taken an interest.

JR: You are what we call over here a city councilman?

SP: That’s right, yes.

JR: How long?

SP: Well, I mean, I was very much involved when I lived in London. I was a city councilor there for a number of years. And I left and retired in the sense of I’d had enough of politics, and then my local political party asked me to get back involved. So, I was just recently re-elected.

JR: Very good. Well, given the fact that you have an unusual personal life, to separate the two and to be successful in politics as long as you have, and further to that, to have been able to tolerate politics as long as you have, is-is quite unusual. It's an amazing combination.

SP: Yes, I hear the humor in your voice there. I agree with you.

JR: Alright, Simon, let’s just go back to the beginning, as a youngster, and tell us about Mom and Dad, and any brothers and sisters. And when did you first understand, or realize, or experience, that you had a life that it probably wasn't run-of-the-mill normal.

SP - Right, I’ve come through a family that was steeped in spying and espionage. My mother worked for British Intelligence, we call that here MI5. My grandfather worked for another arm of British Intelligence, who deals with foreign affairs, that’s MI6. So both these key members of my family were very much involved in in in in State. It was a subject you didn’t talk about much at home. Everybody knew what was happening, but you didn't mention it. I haven’t actually worked, I couldn’t be talking to you now if I had signed the Official Secrets Act, because I would be being disloyal to my country. and I wouldn't do that. So I'm able to speak about my experiences because I haven't signed anything that prevents me from doing so.

JR: This is fascinating, that you would come from a home with an MI5 and MI6 agent, a servant of the country, of the bureaucracy so to speak. But we call it today Big Brother spying, espionage, and all the rest of it, surveillance of the general populace. And there are people who work in those lines of endeavor who are very honorable, good people, and I get the feeling that your parents are are certainly of that kind in their service to the country.

SP: Yes, I mean what your listeners will be interested, I think, to hear is, when my mother signed the Official Secrets Act, and she was told that she was working for MI5, what she was actually told was - you're working for the NSA via MI5. So I think your listeners will be interested to hear that.

JR - Very interesting indeed, because I've covered this situation for years and years, and the Americans don't understand the NSA is deeply involved in in British intel, it just is, and the two scratch each other's back. Actually, what part of the relationship is, is one of plausible deniability. They both use each other in ways, as I understand it that is quite beneficial to hide behind.

SP: Yes, well you know it is illegal in your country for your own security service to eavesdrop without a warrant, and it is the same in this country . But what they’ll do is, they piggyback. So MI5 eavesdrops on your citizens, which is perfectly legal, and the NSA eavesdrop on Britain. They share information

JR: That’s the plausible deniability. Exactly. That’s what I’m talking about

SP: Yes, absolutely, but it’s quite legal

JR: Very interesting symbiosis, for sure.

SP: Yes

JR: Okay, intel background, obviously a fascinating a kind of world to be in when you're working in it, but home life - you just didn't talk it - about you had a pretty normal home life all things considered, you have brothers and sisters?

SP: No, it wasn’t normal at all. Not in the slightest

JR: I'm being facetious, because we've already talked off the air, but I just wanted to set that up.

SP: Yeah, yeah - no, I don’t, any of your listeners who are familiar with any of this know, that you cannot have a normal life as people would understand it. It’s always very difficult, because you know you are always being watched, and you wonder which side is watching you.

JR: True

SP - Talking about the extra-terrestrial side of it, I don’t know, to this day, whether my mother actually had any encounters or any herself at all. Nor do I know whether my grandfather had. But they were the sort of people that wouldn’t talk about it anyway. And then, when I look back on all the experiences I had, I just cannot believe I'm the only member of that family to have had those experiences. And also, I just don't believe it’s a coincidence that 2 key members of my family were deeply involved in intelligence, and I find myself in a position where I can talk about extra-terrestrials. I just don’t think its coincidence.

JR - I would concur with you, and I’m just standing halfway around the world almost listening. It's ah...coincidences. There are very few coincidences, not of the type we’re describing here,

SP: No.

JR: Now, when you say intelligence, remember dear friends, he's not just talking about British Intelligence, he's talking about American Intelligence as well, because they are in bed together. So if there is a link and there was some kind of a relationship there between Simon's experiences with ETs and in the intelligence community, it stretched all the way across the Atlantic to Virginia, and other agencies probably involved as well. This is a very big story, as all of you listening understand; and Simon, in his life has participated in it to a singular degree, but a very fascinating one. So go ahead and tell us, if you would, about your childhood and what happened.

SP: OK, again, I’m gonna try and bring up things I think your listeners will be interested in. We talked off air a little bit, about when Nazi Germany was defeated. And plenty of German scientists decided to relocate to the States, and they were offered a package, and they moved out there. Some others, obviously the Soviets captured, some others elected to stay in West Germany.

My mother was a fantastic typist, we’re talking now in the 1970’s before computers were everyday items, the old-fashioned typewriter was the tool of choice. My mother was an absolutely wonderful speller. You could give her any word in Latin or Greek, and she could spell it. So she worked in a patent office. And I am sure your listeners know that a patent office is a place where you invent something, you go along and you protect your patent. So she worked there as a typist. One day, a guy who was a freelancer, gave her a document to type out, in German, but he translated into English. And she did very well.

This chap started to call to the house to give my mother work. One day he turned up with somebody else, and made my mother sign some documents. And Mother would say, “What are they?” He said, “Well, I'm not telling you, you just signed them”. So, the upshot of it was, she did sign them. These are the Official Secrets Act documents. My mum got two wages, she got her ordinary salary, for a job that she just had to give up, but she still got paid for it, and plus she got another wage. So she was actually getting two salaries, although she was only working for one employer. And this was the carrot that they used.

Basically, what would happen is, documents would arrive, be brought to the house, and they would be in German. They would be fairly large documents, and beautifully sealed, fantastic ribbon through them, very, very expensive looking, and they would have on the top the words Secret, or Top Secret, or Extremely Top Secret.

JR: Now these these - we're going to go through the break the network

SP: Very fine.

JR: These documents were already translated to English for your mother to to type.

SP: The documents arrived in German, but they’re on a magnetic spool tape, they’d been translated into English.

JR: So she would take the dictation in English.

SP: That’s why it was called a Dictaphone.

JR: Got it!

SP: Yeah. She operated a foot pedal.

JR: Foot pedal, sure.

SP: Yeah, that’s it.

JR: Now, she was obviously very skilled, only the best typists can do that work and do it well. Especially in the patent office, where there's so many exacting details that must be recorded properly. It's interesting how you said she was a fantastic speller. Now, nobody knows how to spell anything because they've got spell check, and every other damn thing in their computers. I mean it's it's crazy.

SP: Yes, I think that why she secured the post I think, because she was so good at what she did

JR: I’ve never had a spellchecker, I won't do it it, it degrades the mind, as well, mind you.

SP: I think also because her father, my grandfather worked for MI6, she’d already got the pedigree.

JR: Uh huh, understand, alright, so, they give her this document, she's got her Dictaphone with a foot pedal, she's ready to start typing. And this is in the 1970s, is it?

SP: Yeah, very early 70’s.

JR: Alright, and go ahead, tell us more.

SP: OK, well, the guy would arrive with the document, they would talk it through, he had to cut the ribbon. He kept a little pocket knife, [he didn’t use to 12:23], and then he had to sign it, pass it across to her, she signed it, and then he had nothing more to do with the document. It was her responsibility.

And I would be a young lad, I’d be 11 or 12 years old, I’d just be doing stuff, maybe playing with my soldiers or my construction kit, and they would just hold the conversation, literally. And I’m there on the floor, playing with my toys, they would be talking about, y’know - Well, these ETs and this is a crashed craft, this is what we’re trying to get out of it. And say it was a power plant, for instance. He would say “I’ve got a couple of blueprints in here, it’s very difficult to read the writing, I’ve tried to translate it from German best I can, there’s a couple of areas here”. And they would just systematically go through it. And my mother.

JR: These are your parents, Simon

SP: No, this is, no, my mother. My father left the home when I was very young. This is a handler, this would be the MI6 or MI5 handler to bring the documents

JR: OK, I understand. And they’re just chit-chatting, and what age are you again?

SP - About 11 or 12

JR: Well, you’ve got ears like a sponges at that age, you don't miss a thing. Okay.

SP - Well, you know what, they didn’t exclude me. I’m looking back on it now, and I’m thinking that was very odd. But I would just be sitting there playing, and I would look up at him sometimes. And this guy, he was the archetype, he was 6 foot plus, blonde haired, blue eyed, and he would just look at me and smile. Just look at me and smile, and then carry on talking about, they call them “crashed vehicles”. They don’t call them space ships, they were “crashed vehicles”.

Anyway, once Mother had gotten her head around what the document required, he would go. Then she would spend, oh, as many hours as she could to get this document typed into English. Then, at a set time, a car would arrive outside. She’d walk out with the documents, she had code words with the driver. Once those code words were agreed to, she’d get in the back of the car, there’d be a copy of the Financial Times newspaper, she had to put her typed documents into that. The car would drive her to what you would call a railroad station. She would then get out, she’d have the London-bound platform. She’d wait there, and then a member of British Intelligence would walk along, sit next to her, with the same newspaper, and they would then swap papers, But she would give him the newspaper with the documents in, she would just take an empty paper, he would get on the train and go to London, And that was what she did for, oh, ten years.

JR - And you learned about this from her just by way of normal conversation in the house.

SP: No, she was extremely loyal to her country.

JR: How did you find out about this particular method?

SP: [15:09 see here?] Well, she worked from home, and she typed these documents out, and every lunchtime she would leave what she typed on her desk, cuz the house was secure. And then she’d go to the kitchen and make the food. That would be an hour. So, I was always fascinated by what was going on. So I would just go and read what she had typed thus far. Obviously, Monday thru Friday I couldn’t do it cuz I was in school, but every Saturday or Sunday that’s what I would do. Then, in the evenings, she would finish, go and have her meal, and I would read, and I just read through [15:42 everything?]. Maybe 5-6 years, very, very regularly.

JR: She didn’t seem to be particularly concerned about you reading these?

SP - She didn't know. I mean – again again, when I’ve spoken to researchers, they sort of intimated to me that she was doing it deliberately. They were saying “well, she would have locked it up”. I said “well, no, she didn’t. She left it by the side... When she finished her work about 5 o’clock or 6 o’clock in the evening, then she had a big safe she’d lock it in. But during the day, it was just left out.

JR: Well, I think she was intending that you very well might be reading those, and and as a mother probably had other reasons as well. We don't know for sure.

SP: No.

JR - All right, tell us tell us how the ET angle first presented itself to you, as you remember it... or whatever point you wish to begin at.

SP: OK. You’ll have to excuse me, I’ve got a bit of a cold

JR: No, Simon, you sound just fine and I'm very grateful for you for for being up this early

SP: Ok, ok. The very first memory I have would be I’m in a cot, and these two very, very strange hands, reach into the cot, green, 4 fingers. And all I can remember is, saying in my mind, “That’s not mummy’s hands, those don’t look right”. And then pick me up around the middle, because I'm so young

JR: You're 3 months old in a crib.

SP: About 3 months, yeah

JR - We call it a crib over here. But just trying to get the point across, you're 3 months old, in a crib, you're actually at that age probably not fully able to hold your head up, as we’ve talked, and you could turn from side to side but you had to be picked up very carefully, a three month old baby.

SP: Well, when I was picked up, I remember my head falling backwards, because I couldn’t hold it, and lifted up; and then when I’m put straight, as it were, I remember my head would fall forward, and my chin would bang on my chest.

And therefore, because I was lifted up like that, and couldn’t move my head, I couldn’t see this creature at all. I couldn’t see his body. All I could see was the ceiling.

But, when I was lifted out of the crib, and angled and turned, I was looking straight into his face. And at that age, you’re not scared because you haven't learned fear, you don’t know what evil or good is, you’ve no concept of it. All I knew was, I’d been picked up and I wasn’t being hurt.

JR: I understand. Wow. The face looked like?

SP: Well, it had a cloak on, which was purple in color. The face, I didn’t know at the time, of course, it’s only been recently, when I’ve talked to researcher in the field, that they have a name for these creatures. Now, in the States, you guys call them Mantis, in Britain, they’re called Mantid.

JR - Very tall and very thin, the idea of course is a praying mantis. That kind of a of a physique, but this particular one had green hands. Was it was the face also greenish?

SP - Yes, the whole body was green, except the eyes. Big, big, black, wrap-around eyes.

JR - Mantis eyes.

SP -Pardon?

JR – Mantis eyes.

SP: Yes, the eyes didn’t reflect. The eyes absorbed, so you wouldn’t get a reflection off them. They were so black and so dark, that anything seemed to be absorbed.

JR - These were not the the the big black eyes of a of a typical Grey. These are again, if you look at a picture of a praying mantis, you'll get the idea. And if you look on the internet, and do a look up for mantis ET, there probably will be some drawings and and representations of them.

SP - Yes, to say to your listeners please, please be very careful. Because if you do that, you’re not going to get a true representation. A lot of the artwork that’s been done, if you go Google, a lot of the artwork has been done not based somebody’s vision, but based on someone’s idea. A lot of the drawings are inaccurate.

JR: They’re projections. They’re fanciful projections of the Mantid

SP: Yes, they’re totally wrong. For instance, in a praying mantis, the legs start somewhere in the abdomen. But these creatures are just human, in the sense they have proper hips, and the legs come down as normal. So I don’t want your listeners to think of a praying mantis that you see in a cornfield, and imagine that taller. It’s not like that at all.

JR: I understand. For the network, I'm going to go right through the bottom break, and the next one as well. I want to make sure we get as much time with Simon as we can. So, this this began at approximately three months.

SP: Yes.

JR- Would you suggest, at this point, in looking back, that these were the Mantid type, were infact of an insect heritage, or were they mammalian, in their heritage? What kind of physiology do you think was involved?

SP: Certainly not mammal based.

JR: Alright

SP - The skin does not have pores, as we understand it. I would think, if I had to put money on it, you're talking somewhere between an insectoid and a Grey. So, whatever is in between those two in terms of the skin, that’s what I’d go along.

JR - Very good. Understand. Very well represented in my mind. I can get the idea. All right, so you're picked up, you look in the face of this Mantid, and take it from there, what happens next?

SP - I'm extremely young, so I don’t remember an awful lot. But I just remember a projection of love, and being told that you are special, you are loved, and then a feeling. If you were to stand with your back to a hole, say a thirty foot or forty foot hole, I wouldn’t recommend you do it; but, you lifted your arms out, and you fell backwards….and you fell down, as if you were falling down a well. Well, that's what happened. It feels like you, when they make mind to mind contact with you, it’s this feeling of falling. And what's happening is, that they are entering your mind, and they're accessing your mind, and I think they switch off certain parts to stop you panicking. All I can remember from that one visit, what I learned from that visit, was that I need not fear these creatures. And I think that was the whole point of him turning up in that area, at that time of my life, saying “you don’t have to be scared of us”.

If you read accounts where adults that have been contacted, by the time you get into your teens, you’ve already formed an opinion, and so if you were to see an extra-terrestrial, you just couldn’t take it. If you read Whitley Strieber’s book, again and again and again he talks about he gets frozen. He can’t move, he’s panicking, And the thing is, the reason they freeze human beings, because they are frightened of being hurt. Because we are very strong creatures, and a lot of these ETs are very frail.

So, if you come to a human very early on in its life, you can build a friendship, then you don’t fear, and I think that is what they did with me.

JR: You mentioned the term “him” or “he”. You are suggesting that there are, in that species of Mantid, males and females?

SP: I’ve only ever met males.

JR: Alright, possibly

SP: I’ve only ever met males

JR: Possibly asexual?

SP: Definitely a male. Definitely a male feeling. Definitely a male feeling.

JR: Alright.

SP: I haven’t any further information on that.

JR: Alright, very good.

SP - It’s never been important, really.

JR: Doesn’t matter. Understand. OK. So move forward. You've got a mum, a human mum, and now you've got another parent who is. How actively involved in your life, Simon? How often are you encountering this other person who has some kind of a clear love for you, or affection for you as a child?

SP: Probably on a monthly basis. I guess, and I'm not fully certain of this. But I think, when I was obviously very, very little, if a small, maybe a pinhead, size of genetic material was entered into me when I was growing, that allows, in this case, the extra-terrestrial to say it is a member of my family. Because they can’t actually, obviously lie, when they're working with somebody, because it invalidates all the work. So, this creature, when it appeared to me at a later date, when I was about three and a half years old, said to me that it was “my more important mother”. In fact, he said “I am your more important mother”. And for him, I’m saying “him” because he is a male, for him to be able to say that there must be some validity in life; because otherwise the rules of the Universe are that, if you lie, and then you want the other person to work with you, help you, you’re doing it on a false premise; and it doesn’t have any validity. So, I guess that a small amount of genetic material was added at some point.

JR: Added, at some point perhaps, after your human birth?

SP: I wouldn’t know. I would say in the womb. It’s very difficult after you’ve been born, because once you have physically manifested on the Earth, any alteration done to you doesn't count, because you've already started life as that being.

JR: I understand. I certainly understand that.

SP: OK.

JR: Now, you also said something very interesting. A universal application to the concept of lying, and being able to carry on with someone after you've begun to lie to them. That that's fascinating. This this is a universal concept in in as much as you recognize it as such now.

SP: It IS a Universal concept, but there are a number of beings that don’t adhere to that. The Mantids DO adhere to it, but the reptilians do not, and certain species of Grey do not.

JR - And the humans do not either.

SP: Yes, indeed.

JR: Wow! So, on that basis, I might postulate the Mantids have achieved a high level of moral existence, and moral being.

SP: I would agree with that. The Mantids are an extremely ancient race, and have evolved to an extremely high level. They don't have anger, they don't have – well, sadly, they don’t have some of the nicer emotions either. But they certainly are thinking chess computers, but with some humanity there. So they have some feelings, whereas there are other ET races that are totally devoid of any humanity.

JR: When did your experiences begin with Reptilians? When did you see the reptilians? And were they - excuse me, Simon - and were they somehow interrelated to, in a political sense, with the Mantids and the Greys?

SP: Yes, let’s put it in a way we can all understand. Let’s say some oil is discovered off some country. And they get a conglomerate together to go find that oil. You might find that the Americans are very good at doing the drilling. You might find that the British are very good at the actual seismic survey. You might find that another country is good at something else. And what the ETs do—they’ve all signed up to a certain agenda, regarding the Earth. And each species brings its own expertise to bear. But having said that, once they go away from the table, they all go and do their own thing. So they’re very human in the sense that they say one thing, then they go and do something else.

JR: Fascinating, very interesting. Also, the three of them getting together to deploy themselves, as it were, on this planet, and one of the three adhering to the universal law of honesty, and the other two not … it would be an interesting situation.

SP: Yes, one’s played off against another. You asked me a question about the Reptilians. I was about five years old, when I could at least remember, the first time meeting them. There’s more than one group of Reptilians. Often, again on the internet, it's just so much misinformation, you’ve really got to dig through to find anything decent. But there’s plenty of groups of Reptilians. The ones I’ve had experience with are the soldiers – the warriors. They’re the Draconis. You know, for your listeners, they have skin which is black, blacky-green skin. They stand, oh, anything from sort of 7 foot to 9 foot tall. And unless you are very well experienced with them, they can be extremely frightening.

JR: That's a very big being, 7 to 9 foot tall.

SP: Well, they vary. I mean, just as the human race varies. Although their variance is greater than ours. They have a royal line. Their royal family are white skin, with red or dark pink eyes, and the royal family have little, tiny, residual wings. They can’t fly with them. Again, if you go on the internet, you get all these stupid drawings of Reptilians, which is just not based on fact.

So, you’ve got the soldier groups, and then you’ve got the royals. And the royals, I say, are the white skinned ones.

JR: Mmm. You were seeing these, and the Mantids, and the Greys in ... what was the venue? Where were you seeing them?

SP: I very rarely see the Greys. Very rarely see the Greys. The Greys aren’t trustworthy, and I don’t like them. And I’ve been nasty to them on several occasions. So, what tends to happen is, they don't send the Greys to come and collect me. They’ll come themselves, the Mantids will come themselves. Because I don’t respect the Greys. And they have a hell of a time with me. Basically, they can come for you any time, any place they want.

They have the technology to do that. Invariably, if it’s a Reptilian take, then you’ll go to one of the bases in the Earth, and that could be a government facility, could be one of their own bases. If it’s the Mantids, they don’t live on Earth, you go to a spaceship.

JR: The spaceship would be somehow parked up there.

SP: Yes, it would be outside of the American missile defense range. You know the Americans have this missile defense system, which they say is to stop any incoming missiles from Russia. Now, that’s rubbish. The missiles are designed to take out any ET craft that they want to have a go at. So, what the Mantids will do is be outside the missile range.

JR: We know it's got to be 25-30 years ago, that a couple, at least a couple of satellites were put up, (and it’.s probably many, many now), whose job it is to watch the transiting to and from the planet, by visitors. That's what they do.

SP: Interesting. Not just that, also people who are taken, your NSA has a very interesting computer array that allows them to - what they call “fast walkers.”

JR: Yes.

SP: People like myself who are taken up. When you’re taken, you can either be taken physically or astrally. But, it’s very hard to describe. If somebody put a vacuum cleaner on your chest, it's like being sucked up. You– and the speed is absolutely incredible. So you travel very, very quickly, and if you’ve been implanted, then on the screen, it will actually show.

So, what the military will do will often watch. They’re always playing catch-up, and they’re just trying to watch to see who’s been taken, how long for, and then they decide if they want to go and visit that person covertly, and try and understand what happened on that particular capture.

JR: That’s a very interesting validation of what I have long suspected. That the advanced human Black Ops boys and girls who are trying to play catch-up, they're trying to keep track of what's going on here. It's not that there is necessarily been a deal made, or contracts trying to track and monitor what's being done here. What is the - what is the plan, Simon?

SP: Plan from who?

JR: Plan for this planet. What are the rights of the Reptilians, and the Mantids, and the Greys? What are they doing here?

SP: Well, they've got different agendas. Jeff. The Reptilians would like the planet Earth to continue in the same vein that it is at the moment. In other words, they particularly have been manipulating mankind. For many, many thousands of the years. And the Reptilian agenda is just to maintain that status quo. But as I am sure your listeners are aware, the Earth is changing, and more importantly, the people on the Earth are changing. People are becoming more aware, they are asking more questions. They are less likely to be pushed around. They are not as respectful of authority as they were. And this poses a number of issues for government. But basically what I'm imagining will happen, is that the Earth will go through some change in the next 5-6 years. I think the Mantids are very supportive of that change, they want the human race to develop. But the Reptilians would like us just to march time.

JR: Hmmm, interesting. Interesting, they do have different agendas, and there are

SP: Oh, yes, very definitely so

JR: There are—I'm going to ask you, in just a general sense, there are, yes, hybrids?

SP: Yes, there are.

JR: And they are walking …

SP: More than even learned researchers actually realize.

JR: I’m not surprised to hear that. They are walking amongst us, they live amongst us.

SP: Yes.

JR: Most people would never recognize them as such.

SP: I think what – sorry, Jeff – I think what people would do is think that person was “wacky,” that person was “odd.”

JR: That’s an odd, that’s right

SP: They wouldn’t think any more than that.

JR: Yes, I think I concur. Someday maybe we'll talk, I'm sure I had an encounter with one, it was very unusual.

SP: Very possibly

JR: The giveaway was the the top of the nose - the bridge of the nose - didn't stop between the eyes, it went up half way up the forehead.

SP: Ok, yeah.

JR: Little thin mouth, little thin eyes, little thin nose, and otherwise look like a 10 or 12 year old boy. But he wasn't! But that is another story to that, but we’ll do that another time.

Alright, carry on. This is just fascinating. So, you’re being raised by the same Mantid, and your mum, for most of your life, and what are the lessons that that Simon is learning? What's happening to you?

SP: Well, different beings will come and teach. One of the creatures that your listeners may or may not be familiar are ones that absolutely put terror into most people. These have got various names: the shadow people, or the shadow being. And I had an interaction over a 6 month period, with a shadow being. And it said it was there to teach me. It said “my job is to make you better”. Now, I would have been about 6, and I said “oh, make me better. Am I sick?” And he said, “No, no, not make you better as in fix, make your mind better”. And, for the 6 months that he interacted with me, my school work went absolutely down, and down, and down – to the point where the school organized a special teacher to come in every lunchtime, every break time, to teach me, and I had an extra teacher come to my home over the weekend. And once that interaction of 6 months was finished, and we’d achieved whatever we had to achieve, then my school work, my academic work, went back up to what it should have been. So, whatever I was being taught was so different from what I was doing in my everyday life, that I obviously, in my head, I couldn't cope with the two things.

JR: Hmm, I understand.

SP: I’ll tell you what he taught me, because I think it’s fascinating.

JR: Please, yes.

SP: He stood, I don’t know if anyone’s – again, you’ve got to watch it on the drawings, the drawings of shadow people, people haven’t got a clue. I’ll have to do some more drawings and send them out to you one day. But, anyway, this creature stands before me, about… I don’t know, a yard, maybe 4 foot in front of me, and he holds up his right hand. As if – think of the face of an old clock, an analog clock, and the hands going up to sort of one o’clock. And he says “copy me”. So, I match him, and I put my hand up, and he moved his other hand to, say, 9 o’clock. And he says “copy me”. And then he goes faster, and faster, and faster. His hands are moving all over the place, and I have to replicate this quickly. And then, he takes his hands down. And, in his mind, he sends me where his hands are going. So, I’m still physically moving my arms, although he’s not doing that, but he’s sending these images to me where my hands need to go. Now, towards the end of the 6-month period – and this is quite hard for your listeners get their head around, I’ll do my best here. Toward the end of the 6-month period, he no longer moves his arms, and he no longer sends me messages to my head as to where his arms are. But I’m still moving MY arms, because I’m moving my arms to the position, that if he WAS to move his arms, where would he move them to. So, it’s a really hard concept. He’s not moving his arms, he’s not telling me where his arms are going, but if he WAS to move his arms, I would have to put my arms where they were. And it’s a really, really difficult thing to understand. But I passed it. I passed the test. And then he didn’t interact with me anymore.

Did I make that fairly clear, or are you lost?

JR: Yes, I did understand.

SP: OK, that’s good.

JR: That was as clear as you could make it.

SP: I try

JR: Yeah, now, the shadow people are just basically that. They are a dark shadow, according to most who have seen them.

SP: Yes, an energetic life form.

JR: That’s right. Very little is known about them. We’ve talked about them over the years.

SP: But you see, when I was 5 and 6. I didn’t call him Shadow Man, because I knew nothing. To me, I told him “my smoke man” because he always seemed to have ethereal smoke rising off his body.

JR: Huh, huh.

SP: So, if he was standing in front of me, there might be wisps of smoke coming off his arms, body, legs, maybe 3 foot. But they didn’t dissipate into the air, they just sort of floated. So, he was always “my smoke man”. And the only time I called him “the shadow man”, was about three or four years ago, when I was talking to a researcher. And he was screwing up his face and saying “smoke man, smoke man?”

Oh, he said, OH! You mean a Shadow being. And so, you know, I had my own names for these guys.

JR: Fascinating. Eyes, nose, mouth, detail for [40:38 you,] or just energetic?

SP: Right. Eyes – bright red, coal burning red eyes. No nose, no mouth. One point on the head, like a little spike. And then 4 or 5 other little spikes radiating off from it. Apart from that, nothing else. 2 arms, 2 legs. No toes, no fingers, nothing like that.

JR: So that’s four kinds of extraterrestrial intelligences that you were interacting with.

SP: I’ve seen loads. But these are the ones that had the most impact on me.

JR: So, the larger point is, that they are here, they've been here, they're not they're not going away. They're based here. We can move forward. We have about eight minutes left. The idea of what you have come away with, in sum total. What was the point of all this, Simon? What was their goal with you, and I'm already hearing that you achieved it, whatever it was. What was it all about?

SP: That was, that was just one, that was just one element where they wish to develop my mind.

JR: Understand.

SP: They referred to me as “The 2 world son”. The “2 world son”. And it’s because, clearly my physical body survives here on Earth, but when I'm taken to wherever they are, my body also survived. Lots of humans can’t cope with it. They will just collapse on the floor, or they can't breathe. That means that the genetic material in my body is absolutely ideal for a hybrid, because the point is that, one day, hopefully for their point of view, there’ll be lots and lots of hybrids on Earth. With a range of souls inside them from different backgrounds, and this offers them one of the best opportunities to survive in a third dimension world. So, it’s clearly genetic material that they are interested in.

JR: That would explain the multi-generational visitation and abduction of families. They were tracking.

SP –And, I’ll tell you something your listeners might be interested in. I do sometimes have, what I call, limited conversations with them, and we've talked about God. And, they are very clear that there is a God, and they don't call him God. They call him “The Undying Creator”. And, it's interesting that their take on it is, that he creates planets and life, and he doesn’t end. I think it’s fascinating that they have all this technology, and they are thousands of years ahead of us. But they still, themselves, don't understand God. Although they are fully aware that God exists.

JR: That's a remarkable statement.

SP: And, also, for your listeners, the Bible is about 90% accurate. And the Bible, in Genesis, is very, very close to the truth.

JR: Hmm, yeah. So that possibly was given to us from a source.

SP: Yeah, I think that the people that wrote that were being helped, to get the truth out. Absolutely. Obviously, bits get a bit mixed up in the writing,

JR: Well, the Council of Nicaea probably had some liberty with it.

SP: Yeah. But ultimately, the whole object of it was to be to be truthful.

JR: What an amazing, amazing thing to hear. What is the future of this species? Are we, without hybridization, going to make it? Or are we going to need to be hybridized to survive? And we've done so much damage to this planet, as you know. If the spent fuel pool at Fukushima, the wrecked plant of Reactor Four hits the ground, it could make much of the planet uninhabitable. It's that bad.

SP: I think, at the moment, its 60/40 that we will make it. What you just told me, although it’s terrible, it's not actually the most important thing. The most important thing is the American government. I don’t mean President Obama, and the democratically-elected representative of the people. I’m talking about the real government. The government that really runs America. My concern there, is that, as we move through 2012, the pressure is going to be on them to either accept the changes, which people will see in their lifetime. Or not to accept those changes. And I've been told that we’re looking at a 60/40 success rate. It's not in everyone's interests for extraterrestrials to come down, and make themselves well known. There are plenty of vested interests that wouldn’t want that. So, I think that it's a very, very difficult time at the moment.

JR: The year 2012 seems to be being capitalized upon by some of these vested interest groups, to do lots of different things, to further subjugate, or try to subjugate, Humanity. This is their window, so to speak.

SP: Yes, it’s their warning. I’ve always said, it’s not just 2012. It’s between 2012 and maybe 2016. This is the period that we will see the most changes. I mean, for heaven’s sake, in Europe we are already seeing the collapse of the monetary system. I know you guys are having a real problem balancing your budget. We’ve seen countries around the world throwing off their dictatorship. We’ve seen unprecedented earthquakes, and tidal waves. The Earth is changing.

JR: More to come.

SP: I fear so, yeah.

JR: Well, the mechanism by which most of the visible planet is controlled, of course, is by the Rothschild-created and dominated Central Banking system, which is the extant means of domination and control in all the three countries on the planet. North Korea, Cuba, and Iran. And, certainly, Iraq and Libya were free of it, but they are now subjugated and gone. We are seeing massive changes in a physical sense as you just mentioned. No question about it. Did you happen to see, about six weeks ago, the number of videos on the internet of the strange sounds from all around the world that were being heard?

SP: I was aware of them.

JR: Very large. Different harmonic kind of resonance noises.

SP: Yes, I was aware of them. They’ve been going on now for the last 2 years. There are a number of joint underground bases, mainly American. Jointly shared with the Greys. And they’re being taken out by sound waves, which just basically shake the place to bits.

JR: Who’s taking them out, Simon?

SP: OK, we haven’t got much time left. There was an embargo around the Earth. One group of extraterrestrials actually put an embargo around the Earth. If an extraterrestrial wanted to come to Earth, he’d almost have to get a visa to come through. That embargo has been lifted.

That's good and bad. There is a federation, a group of extraterrestrials, who are absolutely fed up with the way that humanity been manipulated. Predominantly by the Reptilians. And the Greys ultimately work for the Reptilians. And they’ve said “Enough is enough. Humanity must be given its chance to step forward into the light”

How can humanity make its choice, if it doesn't know the difference between right and wrong? So, this one group, this federation, are at war with the Reptilian race, which is on Earth, and their servants, the Greys. In an effort to balance the books, to try and get a level playing field. Get the scales balanced. So that humanity then is less mind controlled, is more free, and then we will decide our own future.

And, if we decide we want to be walking love, and walking light, we will go forward. If our governments decide that, no thank you, we want to stay as we are, we're in trouble.

JR: Mmmhmm. We’re in trouble, right now.

SP: I'm hopeful. I’m hopeful.

JR: I’m hopeful too. I'm looking back at history, and I'm trying to find some precedent, somewhere, for a massive - a truly massive- switch shift Paradigm movement to the positive in terms of Enlightenment, and it's difficult for me to come up with anything.

Simon, we’re out of time, but we - would you come back again?

SP: Yes

JR: In maybe two weeks, 2 weeks from tonight on the 20th?

SP: Yes, you give me a ring before that, and we’ll sort something out.

JR: Very good. Would like to spend maybe a couple of hours, and we’ll do this in more detail. There’s so much that we can learn from you. Thank you, Simon, it's been a real pleasure.

SP: It’s been lovely to speak with you.

JR: Thank you. Be well.

SP: Take care, bye-bye now

JR: OK. Goodnight. Mr. Simon Parkes, and we’ll have him back on the 20th, and we'll continue our conversation. That's that's the kind of interview that leaves you thinking.

All right, thank you for being here this week. Another weekend upon us. I hope you enjoy it. Be well, take care, and Happy Easter to one and all, and we'll talk soon.

Transcribed by JC March 10, 2019

Proofread by C. Hess August 21, 2019

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